Of course no one asked Joe Biden a single question about his son’s raking in millions from Ukrainian and Chinese businesses — as revealed by the New York Post’s expose on Hunter Biden’s emails from an abandoned computer — at the so-called town hall Thursday evening — not the uberliberal moderator or the audience members.
Perhaps they all remember what happened to the last person who asked about Hunter Biden’s $50,000-plus-a-month pay for sitting on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company that was being investigated for corruption.
That’s right, he was impeached.
Trump asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky during a phone call to work with Attorney General William Barr and Rudy Giuliani to find out what happened between the Bidens and a Ukrainian prosecutor.
A White House summary of the conversation reported, “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”
That led to Trump’s impeachment for abuse of power — supposedly for implying he might withhold military aid if the Ukraine failed to look into a political opponent. A quid pro quo.
But in 2018 Biden bragged that he explicitly threatened to withhold a billion-dollar grant if the prosecutor looking into the company paying his son to be a board member.
Biden boasted, “I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”
A quid pro quo.
Dual standards?
4TH ST8 
A Burisma exec asked Hunter Biden to shut down any investigations of the company. Shortly thereafter Joe Biden flew to Ukraine and gave a speech critical of its top prosecutor and saying the administration would withhold a billion dollars in American aid if he were not fired. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/10/16/tucker-carlson-did-joe-biden-subvert-american-foreign-policy-in-order-to-enrich-n2578208?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=10/16/2020&bcid=5c0e6179893645d6efbaac9ef7bb9c95&recip=19718382
Owning cons
I’m new at this but I promise I will get better.
Well, when you find something good to talk about, you certainly succeed!
I’ve seen that video with Joe bragging about getting a prosecutor fired if the Ukraine wanted $1 billion in aid coupled with his son working for Barisma gas company and wondering how that’s not illegal?
But then I just chalked it up as another Democrat thing kind of like Hillary‘s emails or BJ’s lying under oath. Different strokes for different folks.
Different strokes for different folks
Burisma not Barisma. The mistake was made cause I need a drink!
Searching New York Post on Mediabiasfactcheck, I find them to rank 2 places out of 6 lower on accuracy than the Washington Post, which says, “On Bidens and Ukraine, Wild Claims With Little Basis”, published today, October 16. The NY Post is to the right of center right, while the Washington Post is on center left. I have no reason to closely examine a story put out by a rag that has no respect for truth. While you’re at it Thomas, I’m sure the Enquirer or the Sun have some great stories to “analyze” as well. Maybe something about UFO’s would be fun.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/on-bidens-and-ukraine-wild-claims-with-little-basis/2020/10/14/0e46f656-0e45-11eb-b404-8d1e675ec701_story.html
Rinny, gotta protect you some Biden, huh? And if the NY Post is right of right center, WaPo is left of Bernie Sanders!
But don’t you dare use logic to analyze this story, Rin!
Cause after all, citizens of Pritzkerville are good little obedient burghers, right?
PS. How many copies of Andrew Cuomo’s book did YOU order??
Even a politically blinded hog finds an acorn every now and then.
Objective journalism that concludes:
“As we hurtle toward the November election with a president who has trapped the country in a web of lies, with the sole purpose, it seems, of remaining in office, it’s time to ask whether the American way of protecting free speech is actually keeping us free.”
From the same folks who brought us The 1619 Project.
Objective journalism is the piece from the NY Post, which you quoted with approval?
Quoted, but no evidence of approval.
No evidence that the reporter who wrote the story for the tabloid approved of it either.
“An article about Hunter Biden on Wednesday was written mostly by a staff reporter who refused to put his name on it, two Post employees said.
Bruce Golding, a reporter at the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid since 2007, did not allow his byline to be used because he had concerns over the article’s credibility, the two Post employees said, speaking on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.”
Even Guiliani admitted chances were “50-50” that he was dealing with Russian agents to obtain this information that the reporter who wrote the story refused to allow his own newspaper to use his bi-line to publish this…piece.
https://www.businessinsider.com/giuliani-said-theres-a-chance-he-worked-with-russian-spy-2020-10
That clearly won’t stop right wing writers from spreading this completely fictional stories amongst themselves and their…readers.
Funny. If you look at the Grey Lady’s story with the mindset of how much these people hate America and all the good it stands, it’s much easier to see how they could write such trash to justify their wickedness.
Obviously, John Roberts et al. have forgotten John Adams’ warning that “…our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people…” which stands to reason that God must NOT be removed from the public square. Perhaps ACB will help.
I had another droll remembrance today. Remember all the furor over Anthony Weiner’s laptop? How Crooked Hillary was FINALLY gonna get hers? I couldn’t wait to see her pay for her crimes! (Cattlegate to Clinton Foundation)
Still waiting………
And waiting……..
And waiting……..
“our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people…” John Adams said it, but it sure sounds like something an imam would say.
Where is your evidence that the veracity of the NY Post is more than the Washington Post, Athos? I presented Mediabiasfactcheck as evidence that the NY Post is not to be trusted. All you put forth is your own perception. I prefer evidence to baseless assertions.
Rinny, it would appear that there is a concerted effort to squash the NY Post piece on Hunter’s emails. Are you saying my perceptions are erroneous? Did something come out of the Wiener laptop scandal that I missed? Is it just an incredible coincidence that every MSM talking head says the same thing (almost verbatim)? IT’S RUSSIA! Just think, that fella was working in that Delaware Computer store ALL THESE YEARS as a Putin mole, waiting to be activated at precisely this time!
Talk about thinking decades ahead! No wonder those Ruskies are so good at chess!
Did the FBI director Wray say there’s no “there” there? He must be in on this too, right? And who runs Mediabiasfactcheck? Until October 16, 2020, I had never heard of them.
You know Facebook uses fact checkers to censor Trump ads, right? Like the relatively new media outlet “The Dispatch” that falsely accusing a pro-life piece of being “partly false” (those folks are so clever aren’t they? Nobody wants the liability, do they? Too many lawyers, man!) Hey conservatives! Steve Hayes and Jonah Goldberg formed “The Dispatch” so it’s gotta be true, right? Well no, Harris/Biden believe in abortion up to the “moment of birth”.
Sorry for the detour. My point is, if the story is so false, why not JUST ASK JOE AND HUNTER? Why does this remind me of Chris Stevens murder in Benghazi 8 years ago? Paging Susan Rice…
And Rinny, you may wanna check your motives in comparing John Adams to an imam. When there is no God, it must be really confusing to study our founding fathers and the birth of our nation.
That’s a shame, really.
“Don’t forget, I’m not bad at that stuff anyway, and I’m president. So I call some guy, the head of Exxon. I call the head of Exxon. I don’t know,” Trump said before playing out a conversation.
“How are you doing? How’s energy coming? When are you doing the exploration? Oh, you need a couple of permits?” he said. “When I call the head of Exxon I say, ‘You know, I’d love [for you] to send me $25 million for the campaign.’ ‘Absolutely sir.’ ”
Trump is evil and I pray each night that God sends him back to hell with an ice pick through the hole where his brain should have gone.
He was explaining why he doesn’t make those calls.
“All I have to do is call up the head of every Wall Street firm, head of every major company, the head of every major energy company, ‘Do me a favor, send me $10 million for my campaign.’ ‘Yes, sir.’ They say the only thing is, ‘Why didn’t you ask for more, sir?’ ” Trump said at a campaign stop in Arizona, adding that he would not accept the funds “because if I do that I’m totally compromised.”
Duh. He was being facetious.
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/521759-trump-says-he-could-out-raise-biden-with-calls-to-wall-street-oil
Well that clears it all right up!
Thanks Thomas!
Since you took care of that so efficiently Thomas I’m wondering if you could tell me why the administration handled these two very similar things so differently?
“According to half a dozen American officials, State Department leaders realized that pursuing a similar course of action as they had in Cuba — including evacuating missions in China — could cripple diplomatic and economic relationships.”
What about Russia?
Suspicions …
“Rinny, you may wanna check your motives in comparing John Adams to an imam. When there is no God, it must be really confusing to study our founding fathers and the birth of our nation.” I’m not comparing John Adams to an imam. Only some words quoted from him, possibly taken out of context. Adams went on to help forge a nation with a distinct separation of church and state. Therein lies the difference between him and the imams and the Conservatives of today.
Separation of state from church would be much more accurate.
Nothing in the founding document eliminates church from state, it all expressly forbids state from interfering in church.
No “establishment” of religion either.
As I understand it, here is the gist of the story: “An email thread from a supposedly abandoned computer at a repair shop appears to show Hunter Biden pursuing a lucrative energy business deal in China”, and also indicated that Hunter Biden introduced a Ukrainian businessman to his father. The legitimacy of this Email thread is still to be determined by FBI investigators. So, assuming that Hunter Biden actually dropped off a computer to be fixed and then refused to come get it, presumably after being contacted by the repair shop several times, which is a bit of a stretch to say the least, the scandal is that a former vice president’s son tried to enter a business deal in China, and introduced a businessman to his father, yes? If so, then that pales in comparison to our sitting President’s dealings with Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia
So if dealing with a communist nation isn’t a scandal for Trump, why is it for JOE Biden when there is only the weakest of evidence of it? For that matter, let’s hear the details of this now famous “deal” with China? Do we even have proof that it occurred?
As for the introduction, “The story didn’t offer any other evidence that a meeting between Joe Biden and Pozharskyi ever took place, and the Biden campaign responded by stating that it did not.” https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/15/hunter-biden-laptop-giuliani/ Conservatives presume some kind of clandestine tryst. Who needs evidence, right? Biden’s people flatly deny that such a meeting ever took place, and they said they checked Biden’s schedule, which could be subpoenaed in the future. Not the likely actions of someone who’s guilty.
Of course, Athos thinks it’s bonkers to think that these Emails could possibly be concocted. Well, according to CNN, “The repairman has contradicted himself several times in interviews: The Post reported the repairman “couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden,” and said someone claiming to be Biden brought it in.” And, “Stelter called the Post’s story “political entertainment,” written by a newspaper run by Rupert Murdoch and promoted by another Murdoch property: Fox News, which Stelter called “a producer of this serialized drama.” And, ” Several experts on foreign disinformation quickly warned that there were major red flags about the articles published by the New York Post, including Giuliani’s involvement, the changing stories about how the emails were obtained, and the digital metadata of images posted by the newspaper.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/media/new-york-post-hunter-biden-reliable/index.html
Since a very similar thing occurred with Hillary Clinton just before the 2016 election, which somehow just faded into oblivion after the election, pardon me for being suspicious of the timing.
And according to Snopes, “The Post reported that before Isaac (the shop owner) gave the laptop and hard drive to the FBI, he “made a copy of the hard drive and later gave it to former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert Costello.” So instead of letting the Trump-controlled FBI handle it, this shop owner thought he would be sure and put it directly into Giuliani’s hands so that it could be used to influence the election – just two weeks before votes are to be cast. And you don’t think that’s suspicious?!!!
BTW, these so called Emails notwithstanding, according to Snopes, “An investigation by Senate Republicans into Biden’s activities as vice president in relation to Ukraine concluded in 2020 without finding any evidence of wrongdoing.”
Rinny, first things first. ” Biden’s people flatly deny that such a meeting ever took place, and they said they checked Biden’s schedule, which could be subpoenaed in the future. Not the likely actions of someone who’s guilty.” Why am I getting a “deja vu” feeling?
Oh yeah, Bill “BJ” Clinton’s finger waggling “Now see here! I did not have sex with THAT woman!” on National TV. And then came………the Blue Dress!
Hunter Biden’s computer is ……… Biden’s Blue Dress! That’s why Biden (Joe or Hunter) don’t DARE show there face and “flatly deny” anything! (who cares if some flunky does it!)
Now, 2 more things:
Thing 1: Are you referring to FBI Head J Comey’s famous July 5, “Hillary get out of jail free” speech? Or the subsequent reopening of Hill’s email case by same J.Comey on October 28? I fail to see Comey as a Trump agent, before or after the election. Do you have proof (or theory) otherwise?
Thing 2: The Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee wrapped things up BEFORE Hunter’s alleged laptop was discovered (although why it was sitting in the FBI office for all these months is a question for Mr. Christopher Wray, don’t you think?) Remember, too, R and D have little to do with anything when it comes to these career politicians. They ALL have shady money in their portfolios. (Maybe not Rand Paul, but then again, that kind of money would corrupt a saint!) Remember the Jimmy Stewart movie “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”? (Claud Rains was great, BTW). That movie was made in 1939 (before WW II)! So, the more things change, the more things stay the same.
And for that reason I LIKE TRUMP! He brought HIS OWN MONEY and has been there 4 years with a possibility of 4 more. If we had term limits, these clowns could do the business of THE PEOPLE and not be the puppets of their donors. Then we wouldn’t have to worry about campaign finance violations.
Just saying…..
The difference between the blue dress and Biden’s schedule is that Clinton was unaware that the blue dress was a possible piece of evidence. Biden could easily have said, “Schedule? Oh sorry, it’s gone”, if there really had been a meeting recorded there.
Fact is, Trump has the power to put the FBI’s feet to the fire, and demand information about the investigation – and you can be sure he has. So why doesn’t he bring that into the open? I assume because the FBI can’t confirm any of the garbage he and fellow Republicans are spewing everywhere. It would ruin the whole game if Trump told the truth, but don’t worry, he never does.
Thing 1: Comey’s October 28 decision was not the issue so much as the so called information presented to the FBI on Hillary just before the election, which led to…nothing. Who provided that so called information to the FBI, and why was it just before the election? Sounds a lot like Kavanaugh’s accuser to me.
Thing 2: Yes, the Emails add an extra bit of information, but they add to a bunch of nothing. I was pointing out that, prior to this so called revelation, Hunter Biden had been investigated thoroughly – by Republicans – and nothing was found. With these Emails, I don’t believe any crime is suggested, only corruption no worse than much of what has been proved about your fearless leader. and of course, as I’ve said, the accusations come from the weakest of evidence as well. So why are Conservatives spitting fire? Answer: to confuse the electorate, as they do constantly. Why doesn’t the Trump Justice Department charge Hunter? I assume lack of evidence and/or that there is no crime suggested.
As for corruption being universal in politics, I agree that it is endemic. The way you and I differ is that I agree from time to time that the people that I “support” are in the wrong. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen you do the same.
“The difference between the blue dress and Biden’s schedule is that Clinton was unaware that the blue dress was a possible piece of evidence.” Boy, Rinny! I’ll say Clinton was unaware! (otherwise, would Monica have been “Arkanacide”)
I, too, share your frustration with the FBI. We know the FBI is corrupt enough to push phony FISA warrants past a judge to spy on Trump’s campaign and even his administration. And I thought Comey and the other top idiots getting the can would turn things around, BUT, sitting on this computer for …..how many months?, is screaming for an explanation from C Wray, don’t you think?
As for nothing happening to Hill Clinton, we agree once again. That’s why I was so surprised that NOTHING came out of the Wiener laptop. That speaks of one hell of a large swamp! (to me, anyway)
Now to the latest Hunter and Joe B drama. Maybe this laptop would go the way of the “Wiener” UNTIL an ex-Navy business partner showed up as an eye witness to Joe’s involvement (and identifying him as “the Big Guy”) Of course the FBI got him yesterday (10/24) so who knows what’s going on, eh?
As far as who’s called out their own side for corruption, why the baited statement, Rin? Jorge Bush and his “compassionate conservatism” still makes me angry (but not as much as time passes) and for that matter, I can’t seem to remember YOU calling out any of your leftist overlords. So, don’t play that “Im more righteous than you” game cause intentions mean absolutely NOTHING!
Just look at Sleepy Joe’s career! All talk and no action. But his intentions were good (and cost him nothing!)
Although I have criticized the left wing in the past, it is true that I find far more fault with the behavior of the right wing. The assumption that both sides misperform equally is false in my opinion. Certainly, the right wing is more unhinged in the murder department. “As of September 2020, the New America Foundation placed the number killed in terrorist attacks in the United States since 9/11 as follows: 114 killed in far-right attacks, 107 killed in jihadist attacks, 12 killed in black separatist/nationalist/supremacist attacks, 9 killed in “ideological misogyny/incel” attacks; and 1 killed in a far-left attack”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#Post-2001
114 to 1, although you could make it 114 to 13 if you decide that black separatists are actually lefties. Either way, this makes it much easier to believe that the far right is more unhinged than the far left. Does that carry over to politicians? I can’t be sure, but I find misinformation from politically conservative causes far more often, and more egregiously than I do from left wingers. If you want us moderates to support conservative causes, try advising them to tell the truth more often and to stop killing so many people. That would be necessary in order to restore any credibility with me.
As for Hunter and Joe Biden, although I also am highly critical of the use of daddy’s name and position to make money for the kids, I do note that, “Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner work in the White House along with Giuliani’s son and Barr’s son-in-law. Barr’s oldest daughter works in the Treasury Department. Eric and Donald Trump Jr. have continued conducting international business on behalf of the Trump Organization. Ivanka Trump accepted Chinese trademarks related to her fashion business. The Saudi grants in question went to a World Bank fund she helped inspire, not to her. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/11/facebook-posts/fact-checking-how-many-trump-relatives-and-friends/
I don’t like nepotism on either side, but why do you focus intently on Biden while ignoring the obvious nepotism in the White House?
BTW, so far as I have found, there appears to have been, “no collusion”. You were happy when Trump said it, right? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
“114 killed in far-right attacks” ?? Name one (1), Or better yet, define “…far-right…” because you’re lumping them in with Jihadist.
“…the far right is more unhinged than the far left….” Is “unhinged” mean screaming at the sky or needing “safe space” rooms w/ crayons and cocoa, or toppling down statues of Christopher Columbus, Abraham Lincoln and torching cities over the summer? Or occupying 6 blocks of downtown Seattle? Maybe you should define the word “unhinged” to me (Or maybe it’s been changed recently, like the phrase “sexual preference”?)
“….I don’t like nepotism on either side, but why do you focus intently on Biden while ignoring the obvious nepotism in the White House?….” 47 years vs 47 months( hopefully, 8 years!). Which do you think can do the most damage?
Do you think Tony Bobulinski is a Russian plant? Hmmm?
Rincon Thomas, Atholes, and the rest: be at ease, according to Trump scienticians Trump has ENDED the pandemic that has torn across the world killing more than 240,000 in this country alone. This man of science has declared this in the face of record numbers of cases in the US and a never ending stream of new deaths.
When I say that Trump is destroying the country it may seem like hyperbole to some but it’s not. Imagine the response going forward by Americans who are told repeatedly by this evil POS that the pandemic everyone sees is really not real because as Mr. Orwell keeps telling them “I ended it”.
“The White House science office listed “ending the COVID-19 pandemic” as the top accomplishment of President Trump’s first term, even as the U.S. has set records for new daily infections and numbers of deaths.”
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/523013-white-house-science-office-says-trump-ended-covid-pandemic-as-us-hits
“114 killed in far-right attacks” ?? Name one (1), Or better yet, define “…far-right…” because you’re lumping them in with Jihadist.”
Athos, they ARE listed in the source I cited. You can lead a horse to water…
Maybe if I actually post a quote, which definitely includes the Islam terrorists that you seem to think I neglect:
“According to a 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, “of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, right-wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent). The total number of fatalities is about the same for far right-wing violent extremists and radical Islamist violent extremists over the approximately 15-year period (106 and 119, respectively). However, 41 percent of the deaths attributable to radical Islamist violent extremists occurred in a single event—an attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016.”[6][7]” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010%E2%80%9319
This article also lists them all, if you want to peruse.
Rin, you need to define “far-right” because your wiki article is claiming KKK and groups promoting global socialism as “far-right”.
And Anny, Donald Trump is only shielding that tsunami of hate you have for the 63 million Americans that voted for him in 2016. I thank God he’s there.
If you think the KKK isn’t far right, I suggest counseling. Can you name these far right groups that are supposedly promoting global socialism? Even if you can find one or two questionable characterizations, I defy you to find any figures suggesting anywhere near equal numbers of deaths at the hands of right and left wing fanatics. You won’t though. You never do, because I’m careful with my facts.
Who do you think founded the KKK? The Amish? I’ll give you a big fat hint, it was the same people that set up the Jim Crow laws in the south after the Civil War. Wanna take a guess at their political affiliation, Rin?
As to far right groups promoting socialism, it was YOUR article, Rin. Didn’t you read it? And though his reasons were never released to the public, I notice your article didn’t include the October 1, 2017 shooting by Stephen Paddock here in Las Vegas. His motives were never revealed but there is a good chance that shooting into a country music festival was not done by a right wing kook. Yes?
And all summer long the looting, burning, and shooting are not being carried out by conservative ideologues. I’m reasonably sure that the “Proud Boys” or the Aryan Nation are not rioting in Philly over the last few days.
Let me help you with the language.
“Right wing: Members of a conservative or reactionary political party, or those opposing extensive political reform.” The definition of the word does not use the term, Democrat! Since the KKK opposed reform, i.e., the abolition of slavery, they were and are right wing. Capiche?
As for our Las Vegas killer, how could an article on right wing terrorism include a murderer whose motives were unknown? YOU might include him, but anyone with a responsible ethic cannot, in good conscience. Was he a rabid left winger? I think not. If he was, show me the evidence!
“As to far right groups promoting socialism, it was YOUR article, Rin. Didn’t you read it?” I read it, but cannot imagine who you think is promoting socialism. Apparently, you can’t either, because you refuse to point it out specifically. Blowing smoke, are we?
As for racial protests and the dead bodies from them, I don’t like them either, but I believe that, in order to be termed terrorism, the violence has to be the intent of those organizing and participating. So far as I can tell, the despicable violence that occurred appeared to be a by product, not the purpose, of the protests. If you don’t agree, then I think you also have to be willing to call Martin Luthor King a terrorist, because people died in the race riots of the ’60’s, some which occurred in the geographical or temporal vicinity of his speeches.
NBC reporting that creator of the reporting about Biden is actually an AI program
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1245387