When the morning paper agrees with Harry … something freezes over

My backup topic for items in this week’s rural newspapers turned out to be today’s editorial in the Las Vegas newspaper.

Though I settled on other topics, I had made a note that retired Nevada Sen. Harry Reid should get a tip o’ the hat for warning Democratic presidential candidates that Medicare for All and open borders are stances too radical for voters to accept. As my ol’ Pappy used to say: “Great minds travel in he same plane, but fools just think alike.”

The lede on today’s editorial reads:

If the Democratic Party keeps embracing the fringe left, Harry Reid might have to re-register as a Republican.

In a recent interview with Vice, the former Senate majority leader urged Democrats not to support “Medicare for All” and decriminalizing illegal border crossings. As recently as two years ago, those two radical ideas would have been seen as extreme among mainstream Democrats. Not now. Many of the party’s top presidential candidates have embraced both proposals.

Mr. Reid said “of course” pushing Medicare for All would make it more difficult for a Democrat to defeat President Donald Trump.

Though Reid has championed many liberal propositions over his lengthy stay in D. of C. — including the lamentable Obamacare — even he recognizes his party is listing too far to the left.

When was the last time Harry and the Las Vegas newspaper agreed on anything?

R-J file photo of Harry Reid.

 

16 comments on “When the morning paper agrees with Harry … something freezes over

  1. Bob Coffin says:

    Medicare for All has as many definitions as adherents. I am one of then but I believe Joe Biden has the answer for this time and that is to repair O’Care because that is possible given little consensus for any one plan. But, it will take years for a true “single payor” to develop even with consensus. Maybe an entire generation.

    Also, this cannot be done correctly and fairly until the employers are free of the burden. If this us to be the future we can’t expect to be competitive in world trade markets and our domestic prices for foods and services still skyrocket. The political climate in Europe, when these programs were born is not replicable here. Those programs were necessary because their countries were economically and physically destroyed by the two World Wars. They had a shared experience of deprivation. We did not. So, they had consensus on many things just to survive and avoid revolution. We did not and we still do not. Consensus is everything.

  2. Athos says:

    Mr. Reid. Has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it?

  3. Steve says:

    FTW Bob Coffin!

    I’ve said much the same over several threads on this site.
    It will happen, eventually. But I think even one generation is being overly optimistic. It took generation in those countries, with war torn consensus, to get where they are today. It will take that long for the USA to reach a similar consensus.

  4. Steve says:

    generations…..as in multiple generations.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Apparently Reid didn’t get the memo (he always was too moderate for his own good) the next president will have a mandate to do whatever it is that pisses the right off the most.

    As Thomas said once “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander”.

    Great minds same plane (sic).

  6. Rincon says:

    I’m not sure why Medicare for all is so radical or so undesirable, since a dozen or two countries have something similar. Their citizens all live longer than we do, their infant mortality is lower, and they all cost on the order of a third less per citizen. What’s not to like?

  7. Steve says:

    That’s not the problem, Rincon. Lots of proposals are totally likeable. Some are very desirable.

    The problem is they all have to be paid for.

  8. Rincon says:

    So if we already had say, Australia’s system, and someone came along and proposed our present system, telling you it would cost us 40% more (which is about 7% of GDP every year), would you leap at it? What on Earth makes anyone think that our way is somehow less expensive than others, when it it is by far the most expensive system on the planet.?

  9. Steve says:

    Rincon.

    Rincon.

    Rincon.

    Fallacy does not become you.

    You are better than that.

    Tell us how it gets paid for.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Rin, I don’t personally, and I’m pretty sure I’m not alone, want the idiots that run the VA in charge of my health care.

    Do you?

  11. Rincon says:

    Australia, Japan, and many others have created health care systems that work well and are 40% cheaper than ours, but Conservatives doubt that America is capable of achieving similar results even when the template has already been created. Do you really think that we are so pathetic? If we are, and Conservatives see no need to strive for better, then what is the point of patriotism?

  12. Steve says:

    The state if Maryland seems to be pointing the way. Even so, they are experiencing real problems now.
    But, let’s be clear, they have been at it for 40 years.
    No matter how it’s twisted, this will take time, effort and money to make such a change.

    And, again, Rincon ignores the cost of switching which increases incrementally with shorter time frames.

    Do a search for Maryland health care.
    For one thing, the state sets all hospital charges the same. There is a lot more.
    Note the pros and cons that come up.

  13. Rincon says:

    Unfortunately, with the requirement for purchasing one’s own insurance out the window, this country will continue providing fire engine medicine to those without, and the other patients will be forced to pay, unless health care is socialized. It’s possible that Conservatives shot themselves in the foot. The electorate may get tired of this inequity and decide to vote for true socialized medicine.

    The real issue though, which has not been addressed in any effective way for 50 years or more, is reducing the cost of care. With or without socialized medicine, there is a lot that could improve the system, but Congress, especially the Conservative members, has dug in its heels, resisting all efforts at cost control. No surprise since 18% of our GDP wants no change at all.

  14. Steve says:

    Obviously, Rincon ignored the search suggestion in favor of more talking point platitudes.

    Do the search for Maryland.
    Read the results.
    Don’t try to have others spoon feed you.
    You are a grown person. Live up to it and look for it.

  15. Rincon says:

    I didn’t address the Maryland plan because I consider it irrelevant. It is nothing like the health care system of any successful country. Everyone wants to monkey with how the bills are paid, when the real problem is that the bills are astronomical in the first place. I don’t care so much whether our system is socialized or not as long as we bring the health cartel to heel. Maryland has not addressed that in any meaningful way.

  16. Steve says:

    And yet, it’s the closest thing to what is being wished for by the left in the USA.

    Moreover, it’s been in play for 40 years.

    Only once enough states have moved towards something will the federal government follow.

    One need only look at marijuana law to see that.

    Whatever happens, it will come from the state level long before any federal actions have an inkling of a chance. ACA proves that.

    Go do a search, if you haven’t already decided to ignore the pros and cons the state of Maryland has run into over it’s 40 years of efforts.

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