There are a few Nevada contrarians after all

The Nevada Independent

Not everyone is singing the praises of Gov. Steve Sisolak’s statewide shutdown of the economy and ridiculing the mayor’s calls for reopening.

Writing at The Nevada Independent Orrin Johnson accuses Sisolak of not even having a plan to have a plan for reopening.

“Humans aren’t built to be isolated from one another for this long, and we all recognize that life must still go on,” Johnson writes. “We have to feed ourselves, pay for our homes and utilities, preserve our livelihoods for the future, and do all the things that make life worth living. Americans in particular don’t put up with boredom or confinement well, and we definitely don’t like being bossed around, at least not quite so overtly, and certainly not so arbitrarily. Under the best of leaders, where we knew what ‘victory’ over this virus meant and where goalposts weren’t being moved, maybe we’d stay hunkered down for another month if clearly necessary, but even then it wouldn’t have lasted. And we don’t have that best-case leadership scenario.”

He suggested the people of the state will begin to reopen whether the governor has a plan or not.

Norman Rogers, writing at American Thinker, says the governor’s shutdown is killing the state economy.

Rogers declares:

Tourism is the base of Nevada’s economy. Hundreds of thousands of tourist industry workers have been laid off. The state unemployment benefits office is apparently helpless in the face of the flood of applicants.

Closed businesses

The governor sees this as a medical problem. It does not seem to bother him that destroying the Nevada economy will devastate the citizens of Nevada. Not only will they lose their jobs, they will also lose their savings and assets.

What exactly is the purpose of the house arrest? The disease is going to spread through the population until enough people are recovered and immune, so that herd immunity develops, and the virus fades away. That is the typical pattern for the spread of a new disease. Placing everyone under house arrest will slow the spread of disease but prolong the time it takes for herd immunity to develop. The justification for house arrest is that it is necessary to flatten the curve and avoid spikes that will overwhelm the medical resources.

Debra Saunders, writing in the opinion section of the morning paper, takes issue with the ridicule heaped on Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman by CNN interviewer Anderson Cooper:

CNN anchor Anderson Cooper gave Goodman, who sees her role as a “cheerleader,” 25 excruciating minutes of airtime. Let’s be clear about the intent of that sitcom-length allotment. The idea wasn’t to explore how a tourism mecca could open for business — as an actual news story might do. This was

CNN screen shot at R-J

pure theater, reality-TV dressed up as journalism — with Cooper mugging on camera, calling Goodman “ignorant” and at one point taking off his glasses and rubbing his eyes in a pose of exasperated disbelief, which made for a viral Twitter screenshot.

What’s especially irritating about Cooper’s preening-not-probing is his apparent belief that it’s his job to ridicule anyone who wants to open America for business.

If you’re worried about businesses never reopening, if you think about low-wage workers who don’t know how they’re going to make the rent and buy groceries, if you fear what’s next in this economic free fall, beware. You lack the due reverence owed to what CNN anchors refer to as “the science,” and you will be pilloried.

Chuck Muth, writing at Muth’s Truths, also came to Goodman’s defense:

Under grilling by Cooper, Mayor Goodman said she “wanted” everything to open back up – including hotels, casinos, conventions and restaurants – “so our people can go back to work.”

How is that controversial – unless you DON’T want people to go back to work?  Is that what all the Stage 4 sufferers of Goodman Derangement Syndrome are saying?

Pretty Boy then declared that opening the state back up to tourism sounded like Goodman wanted to create “a virus petri dish.”

So professional.  So unbiased.

To which the Mayor responded, “No, what it sounds like is you’re being an alarmist.”

Nailed it.  And got Pretty Boy’s hackles rankled.

“I’m being an alarmist?” he asked with that patented smirk on his face.

Posted at Muth’s Truths, a photo of R-J front page

 

Then there is this Ramirez cartoon to sum it all up.

 

22 comments on “There are a few Nevada contrarians after all

  1. Anonymous says:

    Remwmber when Dr. Dotard told everyone to go eat fish tank cleaner and the far right wing talking heads took up the chant?

    How’d that work out for the world?

    Or how about when the Agent Orange told people to go drink some Lysole. Anyone really dumb enough to do what this moron suggested?

    Short answer, yes.

    By the way, does his guy EVER say anything that makes sense?

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2020/04/25/calls-to-poison-centers-spike–after-the-presidents-comments-about-using-disinfectants-to-treat-coronavirus/#4e27304f1157

    Now we got a mayor, whose one real “qualification” for the job is not that she’s got any medical training, it’s that she’s the wife of a former mayor. That’s it.

    And yet somehow, in the midst of a plague that is even now developing more heinous ways of killing more people, this…individual is choosing dollars over lives, and telling people she wants Nevada’s workers to be guinny pigs for the world.

    Ain’t it always the way, that rather than these elites telling us poor slobs to watch them, while they put their lives at risk, they shove us out the door of the bunker and say “we’re behind you all the way”!

    By the way, why didn’t trump take some chloroquine, or drink some lysole before he suggested we do it?

  2. The difference between the medicine chloroquine and the fish tank cleaner is like the difference between sodium chloride and sodium hydroxide.

  3. Anonymous says:

    “Locker room talk”

  4. BigDogatPlay says:

    Reblogged this on The View From Out West and commented:
    I’ve been writing for more than a year that Governor Sisolak is, at best, little more than an obnoxious bully as comes to his leadership ability. As he continues to fiddle while Nevada’s economy is sacrificed on the altar of Covid-19, more and more are coming to the realization that Nevada’s were sold an empty suit, and now the bill for that mistake is coming due.

  5. Athos says:

    Hoo Ray for a little sunshine! It’s great to see people standing up for common sense, Liberty and personal responsibility! Always liked Chuck Muth (gonna have to start reading his blog again!).

    Hold up on reporting about the lysol drinking, fish tank cleaner taking, people out there, little p! We’ve got Darwinism in action, mister! And you know, even in death, democrats don’t lose out on the vote!

    BigDog, saw Adam Laxalt on one of them Fox Tv shows and we really missed out not having him as Governor. Sissylack and all those Democrat politicians really profited from the Union vote (and no voter ID needed to vote in assorted languages even though proficiency in English is a requirement of Citizenship.) Although, we may lose a lot of voters due to California giving illegal aliens money! Silver lining?

  6. Just me says:

    All across the nation, various Democrats in power are showing that they are emphatically NOT pro-choice in so many ways. They are proving themselves to be petty tyrants wanting to “make sure” that the rest of us behave ourselves and just unquestioningly do as we’re told.

    Unfortunately, some Republicans also suffer from Libido Dominandi.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Your rights stop at my nose.

    States rights. Blah, blah, blah

    Stupid republicans man

  8. Just me says:

    Great response!

  9. Anonymous says:

    80% of Americans believe the current shelter in place restrictions are appropriate and do not want them removed any time soon.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/the-memo/495573-the-memo-the-surprising-popularity-of-the-great-lockdown

    The only tyrants I can see are those demanding that the masses of people bow to their selfish short sighted whims to get their hair cut at SuperCuts.

    Stay home, stay safe.

  10. People are free to do that of their own volition.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Your freedom ends at the tip of my nose so long as your corona virus can infect me in other words, you don’t get the right to do whatever you want.

  12. Steve says:

    As long as you stay at home, on your own property, you get to say that, Patrick.
    Once off your own property you lose all claims to those powers.

    So, you stay home. You live your rule.
    That way you get what you want and others can get what they want.

    That’s your wish, you stay home.

  13. Rincon says:

    In Illinois, we threw people out of their jobs in the name of slowing the virus, but didn’t bother to require masks or a 6 foot space between people. Even now that we “require it”, there is no enforcement mechanism and apparently no penalty. Throwing people out of their jobs should have been a last resort, not the first expedient.

    I believe requiring the masks and 6 foot separation with enforcement is a perfectly reasonable medium to long term measure. Anyone speeding on our highways is guilty of a mild form of reckless endangerment, so we accept speeding tickets as a necessary mechanism to minimize this behavior. Likewise, someone who comes closer than 6 feet to another without a mask is also guilty of a mild form of reckless endangerment, so assessing a fine for a violation is perfectly reasonable.

  14. Steve says:

    Masks are for medical professionals. Facial coverings are not masks.
    N95 masks are the only ones that do block virus. All others have little to no effect and do nothing to prevent the spread.
    All that happened was a demand for action and to “do something” so the government conceded that facial coverings would have a positive effect but insisted MASKS not be used by the general public because MASKS are for medical professional use and MASKS are used once and discarded.
    Facial coverings are NOT MASKS. No one outside the medical field should be using any MASKS because that takes away from the “front line” in the effort to SAVE LIVES.

    In conclusion, there should be a message that wearing a bandanna is OK because it might make you feel like you are doing something positive, but it is not and should not, be a requirement.

  15. Just me says:

    Come now, Anon, only if I lived in a pure democracy, not in our Constitutional republic, would I give a flying fig what 80% of the populace wants to do with my rights, which are unalienable. And I’m afraid this is not just about SuperCuts, which of course, you already know. Nice try to flip the term “tyrant” on its head, though.

    BTW, the curve has been squashed, but some insisted on moving the goal posts, so we’re stuck in this mess with the TYRANTS in office, elected or not, still trying to tell us how to live.

    #BewareLibidoDominandi #RejectEmperorFauci

    Have a nice May Day, or International Workers’ Day, as I assume you call it.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Unalienable?

    No such thing as an inalienable right. And as far as being concerned with what 80% of the population wants that as irrelevant as that we live in a Constitutional Republic at least as it relates to the police powers currently being exercised by Nevada’s state government pursuant to the 10th Amendment.

    You’ll do what you’re told. Thankfully in this case by someone listening to people he should be listening to and not someone that would have you drink two cups of Lysole and call him in the morning.

    Happy May Day!

  17. Steve says:

    “Lysole”

    Kettle, meet Pot.

    Hahaha…chuckle snort, snort

  18. Rincon says:

    mask
    /mask/

    noun

    2. a covering made of fiber or gauze and fitting over the nose and mouth to protect against dust or air pollutants, or made of sterile gauze and worn to prevent infection of the wearer or (in surgery) of the patient.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=mask+definition&oq=mask+def&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l6.3791j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    MASKS – yes, that’s what it says on the label – have been sold at hardware stores for decades and are often used multiple times by us lay folk, so spare me the condescension. Even a bandanna is quite worthwhile, but it protects others from the one wearing the mask, not the other way around. The mask is all about cutting down velocity, which minimizes the number of viral particles traveling to others say, 6 feet away.

    I’ve heard nothing in the media about the concept of a minimum dose of viral particles needed in order to acquire a disease. As I understand it, a single viral particle for example, is rarely, if ever able to cause disease. It takes a certain number, which differs among viruses and individual people. This in part, explains why many people who were in the vicinity of someone carrying the virus never became infected, despite the finding that Coronaviruses can float in the air for long periods of time. https://www.businessinsider.com/how-coronavirus-travel-through-air-droplets-aerosols-2020-3

    This also explains why distancing by 6 feet is considered a reasonable safeguard. Consider somebody lighting a cigarette 6 feet away from you. How long before you can smell it? Usually, less than a minute indoors. Many of the smaller particles with viruses attached float in the air much like smoke, so how can 6 feet of separation possibly help? Infectious dose.

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/14/how-much-of-the-coronavirus-does-it-take-to-make-you-sick/

    https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-questions-about-covid-19-and-viral-load/

  19. Anonymous says:

    Glad I don’t live in Nevada anymore.

  20. Just me says:

    “You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe.” – John Adams

  21. Steve says:

    This is a good read.
    Know how, when and where certain preventative measures are indicated.
    Hint: retail locations are low risk for customers. Employees, the exact opposite. But facial coverings work to stop you from infecting another…so while they are not useful in preventing you from inhaling the droplets, they are useful in preventing you expelling droplets.
    Also, nose breathing is very low risk. So wear a bandanna and/or keep yer mouth hole shut.

    “Commonality of outbreaks

    The reason to highlight these different outbreaks is to show you the commonality of outbreaks of COVID-19. All these infection events were indoors, with people closely-spaced, with lots of talking, singing, or yelling. The main sources for infection are home, workplace, public transport, social gatherings, and restaurants. This accounts for 90% of all transmission events. In contrast, outbreaks spread from shopping appear to be responsible for a small percentage of traced infections.”

    Erin S. Bromage, Ph.D., is an Associate Professor of Biology at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth.
    https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

  22. Anonymous says:

    Thought I’d post this very nice piece about what’s happening in Sweden since so many folks believe they made the right choice and didn’t impose any restrictions on their population.

    In summary seems that economically speaking, Sweden is no better off than the countries surrounding it from an economic standpoint because people don’t need the government to tell them to stay home in times like these because they’ll do it themselves. And they’ll also save money preparing for the unknown.

    Sadly, their mortality rates climbed higher than those of the nations around them, and in spite of their excellent health care system, for reasons that are only now being uncovered.

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