Anyone notice a cause and effect?

The “cause” is on the Business page of Tuesday’s newspaper …

… while the “effect” was on the front page.

The keep building new homes and businesses, while demanding that everyone conserve water.

They keep handing out “will serve” letters.

In 1991 the water authority stopped issuing will-serve letters to developers until it could get a handle on how much water was already committed.

The population of the county at the time was about 750,000. It is now more than 2.2 million, and the state still gets only 300,000 acre-feet of water from Lake Mead and that may be cut soon due the drought.

Of course, the county is still pressing that groundwater grab from rural Nevada.

Cause and effect?

 

18 comments on “Anyone notice a cause and effect?

  1. Anonymous says:

    Back in the day I chose to stay here because it was so inexpensive, the gov’t stayed out of our lives and the area was totally open to living and exploring.
    Today, those who are moving here think they see the same as we did all those years ago.

    It’s bad and good at the same time.
    But we have the water, don’t let anyone claim we don’t, Vegas returns more water than any other entity on the river. Southern Nevada could pull its allotment from a dead pool condition if it needed to and any cut would be minimal in our area hitting California and Arizona the hardest because they base it on percentage and LAs Vegas has the smallest amount of all.

  2. Steve says:

    And again, I clicked posty before filling in my info….

  3. Bill says:

    It looks like the demand for more growth will keep increasing as Californians are deserting in droves. This report from CalTax is ineresting:

    “-Henderson developer stated 70% of purchases in 2018 were by Californians compared to 30% in the 1990s

    -Californians that have moved state the high taxes and high utility bills are a contributing factors.

    See http://caltax.org/homepage/030119_ca_competitiveness.html

  4. Rinconl says:

    They may be leaving in droves, but bigger droves are taking their place. Contrary to Conservative myth, California’s population continues to grow, with a gain of almost 3 million since 2008.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/206097/resident-population-in-california/

  5. Bill says:

    Conservative myth? I haven’t heard anything about a conservative myth that California’s population is shrinking.
    Where did you come up with that opinionated statement ? What basis do you have to state that such a myth exists among conservatives?

    My comment said nothing more than a observe that according to a California report, a lot of people were leaving California to settle in Nevada.

    It is no myth that California has been experiencing an exodus of people. See “If California Is Doing So Great, Why Are So Many Leaving …newgeography.com/content/001925-if-california-is-doing-so…

    The conclusion is that as a result of these migration trends, California’s share of the United States population has been declining. The article says, “.. More depressing still are the growing ranks of what could be called “the resigned”. They simply have given up.”

  6. Rincon says:

    OK, I’m happy to agree that it’s not a myth. Now for the facts:

    Between 2012 and 2016, Nevada gained 187,493 people. California gained 1,573,156.

    If you conclude that, “It is no myth that California has been experiencing an exodus of people.”, then we’ll just have to chalk it up to a difference of opinion. I prefer to think that California is busting at the seams and might well welcome slower growth.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=state+population+by+year+excel&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjK4a3F3PPgAhUNna0KHVlzBG0Q1QIoAHoECAQQAQ&biw=1280&bih=578

  7. Steve says:

    Wonder…are those stats found as a percentage of population?

  8. WSJ:

    “California has been losing more residents than it gains from other states for years, even though its population of 40 million keeps growing from births and foreign immigration.

    “But the outflow has accelerated lately. Net migration to other parts of the U.S. from the nation’s largest state was more than 100,000 in 2015, 2016 and 2017, according to the Census Bureau. Total emigration from California to other states between 2006 and 2017 was 1.24 million, according to the Census Bureau, third highest in the nation behind only New York and Illinois.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-california-loses-people-a-las-vegas-suburb-grows-11551197094

  9. Anonymous says:

    Which of course even if true means what exactly? What are the ages of the people leaving? Are they leaving because their retired, have a big pile of money because they just sold their home and decided to move to a place like Nevada because they can buy a home cheap?

    Are younger people moving into California? Younger people who are educated, with skills that will serve the state as opposed to someone coming to Nevada bringing nothing but needs (even a retiree coming to this state, who will not be paying state income taxes, is going to utilize public services which will mean others bear a greater burden)

    The absolute numbers are one very small part of the picture and of course the numbers never say what you guys on the very far right would love them to say about “poor old California”.

    It must really chap all your hides to see that communist utopia continually putting all the other capitalist states to shame.

    I can understand why I mean, 5th largest economy in the entire world, largest population in the country demonstrating that people voting with their dollars prefer California over any other state in the country, the worlds leader in technology, a vibrant workforce that’s not reproducible anywhere in the entire world at this time educated, happy, beautiful it sure does have it all.

  10. Bill says:

    Rincon, my objection was to your making a sweeping conclusion that conservatives were perpetuating a “myth” about Californians emigrating to other states. It is a simple fact and many people are moving to Nevada as are businesses. People and businesses move for a variety of reasons such as low taxes and less regulation. Whatever the reason, growth from emigration will have an affect on allocation of resources in Nevada. Southern Nevada, in particular, has an insatiable thirst for water. They have been attempting to appropriate water from the northern part of the State and move it south, much like Los Angeles did to Owens Valley.

    “Anonymous” who wrote the last blog evidently felt compelled to repeat the sane canard about conservatives while writing a very nice apologia for California.

    I was raised in California but really don’t want to live there anymore. San Francisco, which I used to love has become a tragedy. Some streets are full of feces, needles and condoms.

    As for the rest of the State, there is too much traffic, too much taxation, too much regulation and too high a cost of living. Of course, that is just my opinion.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Don’t know that I mentioned any conservative canards but I do see at least one about “streets full of feces, needles and condoms in one here.

    By the way, the heck does that even mean “streets full of feces”? I mean, are they knee deep? Waist deep? Neck deep even?

    Funny that in nearly every international ranking of cities worth their salt, the city by the bay is ranked no lower than the top 20.

    Wonder where world famous low tax Elko or Reno, or Las Vegas or Battle Mountain appear on those lists.

    People man.

  12. Bill says:

    You haven’t really been to the City lately have you? If you have you didn’t go downtown.

    But don’t take a Conservative’s word for it. Just google ‘feces in San Francisco’ for yourself.

    It is so bad, they even reportedly have poop maps. See for instance http://www.dailywire.com/news/12001/san-francisco-requires-poop maps. It is reported that “San Francisco Spends $30 Million Cleaning Feces and, Needles http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Diseased-Streets.

    But, as a conservative, I undoubtedly am promulgating another “myth”. But so evidently is NBC News. It was the NBC Bay Area Investigative Unit that surveyed a section of downtown San Francisco to determine the amount of feces, hypodermic needles, and garbage littering the heart of the city.San Francisco. NBC reported the $30 Million.
    The NBC Bay Area Investigative Unit surveyed a section of downtown San Francisco to determine the amount of feces, hypodermic needles, and garbage littering the heart of the city.San Francisco Spends $30 Million Cleaning Feces and, Needles from the streets http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Diseased-Streets...
    .

  13. Bill says:

    Just one final note. The “world famous low tax Elko or Reno, or Las Vegas or Battle Mountain” all have some interesting and unique things about them and they are all inhabited by a lot of nice people who themselves are interesting and unique.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Maybe its just time to admit that the real reason conservatives like to point out the negative things they like to point out about places like San Francisco is that not only is it labeled as one of the most liberal cities in the country, it is universally known as one of the best cities in the entire world.

    And that just pisses the right off doesn’t it?

  15. Bill says:

    No. I really don’t get pissed off too much these days. I do get disgusted. What disgusts me is to see a once beautiful city that I lived in and where my son was born turn into a disgusting, ineptly run sewer where just walking down the streets is a health hazard and the offensive sights and smells one encounters are offensive to the senses and sensibilities of decent people.

  16. Rincon says:

    While the WSJ disingenuously points out that California loses more residents FROM OTHER STATES than it gains, which is a meaningless statistic, since it and its economy continue to grow rapidly, recently becoming the equivalent 5th largest country in the world (up from #6). The Journal, in its infinite wisdom, neglects the substantial raw population growth there, the overall high incomes of its residents (averaging $64,500/year vs $52,431 for Nevada),
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_income
    and completely neglects foreign born high tech workers for instance, who make up 3/4 of Silicon Valley’s work force. https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/17/h-1b-foreign-citizens-make-up-nearly-three-quarters-of-silicon-valley-tech-workforce-report-says/

    All in all, this is strictly Conservative spin. California is thriving. I don’t know about the San Fran inner city, but it’s condition cannot be construed as an indication of that of the rest of the state.

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