Look out for Clark County grab for education funding

Sisolak delivers State of State speech

There was one line in Gov. Steve Sisolak’s State of the State speech Wednesday night that should cause rural Nevadans concern — the talk about changing the school funding formula.

“I also look forward to working with Legislative Leadership to review the decades old Nevada Plan to ensure that tax dollars for education follow the student,” he said. “We have to make sure our statewide funding formula is equitable for ​every student​ in ​every​ ​county​.”

The school funding formula is weighted to take into account the transportation costs in each county, as well as the relative wealth in each county. Thus, poorer rural counties with long commutes get more money per pupil. Any formula adjustments doubtlessly would mean talking money from rural counties and giving it to Clark County.

 

 

24 comments on “Look out for Clark County grab for education funding

  1. Bill says:

    Good alert warning for Washoe and the Rurals. The State of the State message was filled wih promises geared towards appealing to Clark County. I find the promise of no tax increases to be somewhat incredible. I sincerely wish him luck in that area.

  2. Common Sense says:

    Rural folks have it pretty sweet don’t they? All these years being taking care of real nice by those urban populations they do nothing but complain about and look down their noses at.

    Sometimes I feel like Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men

    “maybe you could just say thank you, and be on your way.”

  3. No tax increase? No way.

  4. Steve says:

    All “Sunset” taxes should require a vote of the people to extend.
    Otherwise they “sunset” on the date first detailed.

    And there you have it. No “new” taxes. All the “sunset” plans are “extended”.
    Any bets on how long those “extensions” last?

  5. Bill says:

    So, you identify with the corrupt, unbalanced Colonel Jessup do you?

    I am surprised that you favor punishing the poorer esidents of he Statte and enriching the rich. As Teresa Jordan, professor emeritus of UNLV, who worked on a study. of the fund, said, “Under the current system, “the less wealthy get more funds and the wealthy get less.” The Rurals suffer from a situation that neither Clark nor Washoe County have to contend with”

    The Rurals have one problem that is unique to them and that is the Federal Government owns the majority of real property in their counties and when 87% of your land is off the tax rolls, you have a pretty small real property tax base.

  6. Steve says:

    If there were no rurals, there would be no farmers.
    With no farmers, there is no produce.
    If there were no rurals, there would be no cattle.
    With no cattle, there are no meats and no dairy.

    With no food, there are no urban metropolises.

    Something tells me we “city-folk” need the rurals to be healthy, comfortable and capable of continuing to feed us.

  7. Bill says:

    There you go again Steve. Talking common sense. To many, the rural citizens are not real people. They are somehow inferior. Uneducated and unsophisticated. They are Hillary’s “deplorables” who according to Barack, “cling to heir guns and religion.

    Bigotry isn’t always about race..

  8. Common Sense says:

    Geez guys all I said was rather than constantly listening to those rural folks complain, whine, name call, talk bad about the people supporting them, maybe once in a while they could just say thanks and be on their way.

    Maybe I’m just outta line.

    And by the way, I’m all for boosting all the education dollars spent in the state,for rural kids and city kids.

    Whose with me?

    Smdh.

  9. Steve says:

    “Maybe I’m just outta line.”

    If you eat any steak at all, you most certainly are, “out of line”.

    If you eat any dairy at all, you most certainly are, “out of line”.

    If you eat any vegetables at all, you most certainly are, “out of line”.

    Way out of line.

    Totally out of line.

    You have no “common sense”

  10. Bill says:

    The difference between us is that you appear to think that the people should say “thank you” for the benevolence of the government handed out by the politicians who dispense the State’s largesse from treasure taken from the citizens under threat of harm. I don’t begrudge money for education. Just the amount and the way that it is spent.

  11. Common Sense says:

    I’d say that’s one difference between us.

    I figure anyone that gets anything from someone ought to be grateful rather than hostile and hostile is how I’m see those falls react to getting what they are getting. Hostile towards them that are providing it. That don’t seem right proper to me.

    And this whole threat of harm stuff is so dumb.

    As Benjamin Franklin said, if you don’t like government, go live among the savages.

  12. Common Sense says:

    “All the property that is necessary to a man for the conservation of the individual and his propagation of the species is his natural right, which none can justly deprive him of; but all property superfluous to such purposes is the property of the public, who by their laws have created it, and who may therefore by other laws dispose of it, whenever the welfare of the public shall demand such disposition. He that does not like civil society on these terms, let him retire and live among savages.”

    ― Benjamin Franklin

  13. Franklin had his Marxist moments … “all property superfluous to such purposes is the property of the public …”

  14. Anonymous says:

    Since Franklin predated Marx, its probably more appropriate to say that Marx had his Franklin moments. Or that Marx had his Paine moments.

    A long line of very intelligent people seeing things the same way.

  15. Rincon says:

    You’re right, Bill. Our government deserves an all too often unsaid thank you. Throughout the history of humankind, the powerful have nearly always subjugated the weak, and in many parts of the world, they still do today. Our government was designed to keep the ultimate power in the hands of the people. By and large, although I have a litany of complaints, our government still operates primarily, although imperfectly, to serve the will of the people. I am grateful to a huge number of public servants, past and present.

  16. Bill says:

    Rincon, you may have observed over the years that there are two things that people can do better than the person doing it. The first is being a coach of any team and the second is holding any political office.

    The majority of government workers and the majority of people who hold political office are decent and hardworking people.

  17. Bill says:

    I’m not aware of that particular Franklin quote. As many quotes are often wrongly attributed to him, I would appreciate receiving the source. Since Franklin was an admirer of the civil society of the Iroquois Indians, if he made the quote you attribute to him, it is probable that i was an ironical comment.

  18. Steve says:

    Bill:

    http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch16s12.html

    As usual, it’s only a part of the whole, intended to impart a message a bit different from the message found in full context.
    In this case the definition of “property” by omitting a goodly portion of the missive, is twisted to mean something other than money.
    Moreover, we do not have the rest of the exchange in question for easy perview. Nevertheless, the bit posted was used in a manner not in keeping with the writer’s own words.

    Typical political spin from the Sham Plea King.

  19. Bill says:

    Thanks, Steve.

  20. Common Sense says:

    Bill must be difficult for you to see such things from our Founding Fathers. These are not the ones that the far right wing typically wants exposed to be sure.

    I find it odd though that, never having heard it before, and question the veracity of it even now, that you would be so sure that it must have been either taken out of context, or intended in some “ironic” way. Sad reality and maybe it’s that those on the right, like yourself, have become so strident in their views, that they simply can’t imagine people like our beloved founders being anything other than similarly strident and ideological. Sad.

    Here’s some additional context for you though, a preamble if you will to what I quoted previously. Franklin wrote immediately prior:

    “The Remissness of our People in Paying Taxes is highly blameable; the Unwillingness to pay them is still more so. I see, in some Resolutions of Town Meetings, a Remonstrance against giving Congress a Power to take, as they call it, the People’s Money out of their Pockets, tho’ only to pay the Interest and Principal of Debts duly contracted. They seem to mistake the Point. Money, justly due from the People, is their Creditors’ Money, and no longer the Money of the People, who, if they withold it, should be compell’d to pay by some Law.”

    Taken along with the previous quote only a turnip would question what Franklin was saying or meant. He just didn’t care much for people that didn’t pay their taxes and heck he even scoffed at the laughable idea that Congress didn’t have the authority to take what was truly theirs to take. Imagine that Huh Bill?

    http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch16s12.html

  21. Steve says:

    See, we aren’t even really talking about any increase in CURRENT taxes, nor any new taxes.

    What is under discussion is how the revenues generated by those tax collections are distributed.

    Now, if you look carefully, you will see a claim from one poster going by several different handles (lately “Common Sense”) to the effect people are resisting paying tax to cover the costs of education in rural areas of Nevada. The person making this claim appears to be insisting rural areas should forego the revenue so the place “Common Sense” very likely calls home can keep more of its own money for use in the metropolitan area instead of the rural areas.
    Of course this would indicate the poster is resisting paying taxes to cover costs in the whole state in favor of keeping the money “home” while still insisting rural lands belong to “The People” even in the face of proof, the poster quoted, showing this to not be the case.

    The government cannot tax “property” owned by the government.

  22. Steve says:

    And, in the grand tradition of modern liberals, soak the rich!

    Washoe and Clark should pay MORE to the rest of Nevada and leave their water alone too.

  23. […] formula. “I also look forward to working with Legislative leadership to review the decades old Nevada Plan to ensure that tax dollars for education follow the student,” he said. “We have to make sure […]

  24. […] Nevada Plan is weighted to take into account the transportation costs in each county, as well as the relative wealth in […]

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