Trump impeachment articles missing any actual criminal act

Six House Democrats have filed articles of impeachment against President Trump, spelling out the reasons he should be removed from office.

They say he obstructed justice by firing FBI Director James Comey, who was looking into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Collusion may be unseemly, but it is not a crime.

They also say Trump violated the emoluments clauses, which prohibits officials from taking gifts, apparently because his hotels profit from renting rooms.

They added that Trump has undermined the courts and the press and this threatens democracy. We thought democracy was strengthened by arduous debate about its institutions, including the gridlocked Congress.

Rep. Steve Cohen, Tennessee Democrat who sponsored the articles of impeachment was quoted as saying, “Given the magnitude of the constitutional crisis, there’s no reason for delay.”

Bill Clinton was impeached by the House but failed to be convicted by the Senate. At least he was accused of something that was actually a crime.

14 comments on “Trump impeachment articles missing any actual criminal act

  1. Rincon says:

    Colluding with the enemy in time of war is treason. Colluding with the enemy in times of cold war (in case you’re not sure, it’s back) is…not grounds for impeachment. Denying that you cheated on your wife when you actually had is grounds for impeachment. Which of these acts did more harm to our country? Through that lens, the letter of the law looks pretty unrealistic, as it so often does.

    I suspect the Democrats are merely making the noises that will create the desired suspicion among the majority of the American public. Many will assume that Trump’s guilty and that the Republican Party will see to it that he is never charged.

  2. Bill Shuster says:

    To me, it looks like the congresspersons initiating this process would do better if they get down to business and quit wasting their time and our money. Apparently those who have initiated this crap are afraid they wont be re-elected and will loose their “gravy train”! If it bothers these 6 so much, why don’t they resign and let congress get back to business.
    The last president is the one that should have been impeached but they were too busy kissing a55 to see it!

  3. Rincon says:

    Russia’s meddling in our elections is no problem of course, as long as they are helping out the “right” candidates. Since they are already deeply involved in our elections, why don’t we just offer them statehood? I’ll bet they would vote Republican.

  4. Steve says:

    “deeply involved in our elections”

    Total bullshit.

    All Russia is doing is only the same thing they have been doing since the end of WWII. Trying to influence elections worldwide. And they are in no way “deeply involved” in any elections.

    Their latest tactics are (GASP) buying ads in social media!

    As for phishing attempts, take a scroll through your own “known spam” folder in your email spam blocker. We all get these, every single day.

    Or, go ahead cuz it’s painfully obvious you love it, keep swallowing the hype.

  5. Rincon says:

    Enjoy your little world.

  6. Steve says:

    I’m in a “little world”?

    You’re the guy who thinks the Russians are interest ONLY in the US elections!

    Talk about “little”!

    Moreover, Russia’s influence in the west has waned with the failure of their form of communism and loss of support for the American Communist party. Russia was up to LOTS more US election influence back in the 60’s in comparison to the present day.

    Clues are fully available from the Google machine if you can figure it out.

  7. Anonymous says:

    I fear for our republic.

    “At least seven foreign governments reportedly rented space in Trump World Tower in New York in 2017 without congressional approval.

    The rentals took place in the months following President Trump’s inauguration, according to Reuters, which cited documents and people familiar with the leases. Staffers on Capitol Hill told the news service that the lease requests were never submitted to Congress.

    The leases, involving the governments of Iraq, Kuwait, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Slovakia, Thailand and the European Union, were approved by the State Department, according to Reuters.”

  8. Anonymous says:

    At least we don’t have to see anymore articles here claiming that there’s any lack of criminal conduct by this administration.

    Course, if this were a democratic administration, m guess we WOULD hear a lot about the criminal conduct but hey…principles are relative.

    “President Trump reportedly pressured the president of Ukraine during a July phone call to investigate the son of Democratic presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden.

    The Wall Street Journal first reported Friday that Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky roughly eight times to work with his personal attorney, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, on the matter.”

  9. Anonymous says:

    The silence around here once again is just deafening. No “I fear for our beloved republic” anymore? No “our founding fathers would be turning in their graves” over what this administration is doing? No, “it’s about the principles” or “Constitutionalists” or “rule of law”?

    A president blackmails a foreign government so that they interfere with American elections, and a whistleblower reports that and, while the law requires the Director of Intelligence to turn the whistleblowers complaint over to Congress he refuses to do so at the presidents instruction and around here it’s oddly silent.

    Pretty obvious that all that talk from all the regular posters here was just a lot of hot air and there really weren’t any principles behind any of it.

  10. Steve says:

    Do the D’s have the votes?
    If so, impeach.
    If not, resistance is futile, you have already been absorbed.

  11. Anonymous says:

    So what do you think Thomas? Is Trump above all law as he argues in court?

    “WASHINGTON — A panel of three federal appeals court judges appeared to be unreceptive Wednesday to President Donald Trump’s claim that local prosecutors cannot get his financial records as long as he’s in office — and heard an extreme hypothetical example making that case.

    Carey Dunne, New York District Attorney Cy Vance Jr.’s general counsel, said the president’s position is too absolute.

    There could be examples in which a state should be able to conduct a criminal investigation of a sitting president, “if, for example, he did pull out a handgun and shoot someone on Fifth Avenue.”

    Asked about that, Consovoy said a president could be charged with such a crime once he was out of office or if he was impeached and removed from office. “This is not a permanent immunity,” he said.

    “I’m talking about while in office. Nothing could be done? That’s your position?” Judge Denny Chin asked.

    “That is correct,” Consovoy said.”

  12. Anonymous says:

    A question for anyone:

    Why would Trump be telling Parnas (who he claimed to not know) and Fruman to “get rid of” the Ukrainian Ambassador (don’t even get me started on the whole “take her out” thing)

    Wouldn’t that be a function for a member of the US government?

    And as a follow up:

    Who were the guys following the ambassador?

    As bad as Nixon was, I don’t recall him ordering any private actors to “get rid of” any members of the US government.

    “Newly surfaced audio appears to capture President Trump telling associates he wanted then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired during a private April 2018 dinner, ABC News reported Friday.

    As described by ABC, the recording appears to capture Trump speaking about Yovanovitch to Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, former associates of the president’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. The actual audio has not been released.

    “Get rid of her!” a voice that appears to be Trump’s reportedly says. “Get her out tomorrow. I don’t care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it.”

  13. Anonymous says:

    Alright so now at least we know Trump was lying. Let’s be honest though, we ll knew it when he denied knowing this indicted Russian anyway.

    I’m still wondering though why he would be telling Russian criminals to “take out” the Ukranina Ambassador?

    Apparently no one else around here has an explanation either. Sad.

    “Republican Sen. James Lankford (Okla.) defended President Trump Sunday amid newly released audio of a conversation between Trump and Lev Parnas that raises questions about whether Trump lied about not knowing the indicted businessman.

    Lankford said the audio of the meeting of Trump and Parnas, a Rudy Giuliani associate, doesn’t show that Trump was lying when he said he did not know the Ukrainian businessman.

    “It’s a dinner, 90 minutes of a dinner, hard to be able to say to the president who meets 1,000 people a day, ‘OK, do you know this person who was at a dinner with you a year and a half ago?” Lankford said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
    CNN host Jake Tapper pressed Lankford, saying that the newly released audio shows Trump did not tell the truth.”

  14. Anonymous says:

    And now one the evils own, that beloved right wing lunatic Trump called “one of his best people” (sometime prior to firing him of course) John Bolton, is so rabid to testify about what he knows, about Trumps heinous actions, that he’s leaking information about what Trump told him from his soon to be published book.

    “The Times, citing sources familiar with former national security adviser John Bolton’s unpublished memoir, reported that Bolton claims President Trump sought to tie $391 million in aid to Ukraine to his requests for the country’s leaders to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. The Hill has not seen or verified the manuscript.”

    “I fear for our beloved republic”

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