Efforts by Trump to win over the press would be quixotic, if he were to even try

Henry Payne cartoon

The Washington Post already has a story about how many votes the Houston hurricane will cost Trump, and CNN quotes a critic as saying his visit there is too soon, though they could as easily have found a critic to say he was too late.

Trump was blasted for being too late to criticize white nationalist in Charlottesville and for criticizing leftist ruffians at all.

He has been challenged for being too bellicose about North Korea or not enough.

It’s enough to drive a man insane, if he were not already. Talk about tilting at windmills.

“Recollect, Sancho,” said Don Quixote, “that wherever virtue exists in an eminent degree it is persecuted. Few or none of the famous men that have lived escaped being calumniated by malice. Julius Caesar, the boldest, wisest, and bravest of captains, was charged with being ambitious, and not particularly cleanly in his dress, or pure in his morals. Of Alexander, whose deeds won him the name of Great, they say that he was somewhat of a drunkard. Of Hercules, him of the many labours, it is said that he was lewd and luxurious. Of Don Galaor, the brother of Amadis of Gaul, it was whispered that he was over-quarrelsome, and of his brother that he was lachrymose. So that, O Sancho, amongst all these calumnies against good men, mine may be let pass, since they are no more than thou hast said.” — Cervantes, “Don Quixote

16 comments on “Efforts by Trump to win over the press would be quixotic, if he were to even try

  1. Steve says:

    The animosity is so blatant because Trump is a turncoat. He used to be a liberal darling, with money.

  2. Vernon Clayson says:

    Trump being a “turncoat” isn’t the reason for the media animosity, the real reason is he upset the real “liberal darling”, Hillary Clinton, The media had her crowned, signed, sealed, delivered, and were agog with plaudits to rain down on her reign, and all for nothing.

  3. Steve says:

    They are even waxing philosophical over the loss of their liberal darling Trump.


  4. Rincon says:

    Gee, I thought it was because of his being the world’s greatest serial liar and because of all of the ridiculous and destructive things he’s managed to do: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/every-terrifying-thing-that-donald-trump-has-done.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html?mcubz=0

    Set aside a lot of time if you want to read the whole articles. The documentation of his malevolence seems nearly endless. The only people biased enough to ignore his extensive list of failings are those that are on his “team”. In America, we root for our team no matter what.

    Comparing the nit picking and venom I saw directed at the Obama Administration in this space with the tacit forgiveness of nearly everything that Trump has mismanaged is truly amazing. As a matter of fact, most here were highly critical of Trump until he became the Republican candidate. After that, there was mostly silence with a little scattered blaming of others for his troubles, as I see today. Not a whole lot of objectivity to be found here. Go team!

  5. Steve says:

    “Gee, I thought it was because of his being the world’s greatest serial liar and because of all of the ridiculous and destructive things he’s managed to do:”

    Politicians will hitch their cart to any ride under momentum. Democrats or Republicans it matters not. That is what Politico showed, and this really isn’t about Trump as much as it is about how the media berates him, much like Fox did to Obama and like all the media did to GWB.

    Another thing you serial knife thrower, you. ALL politicians are serial liars, some only hide it better than others. I think an asshole lying is much more honest than a soft spoken knife thrower like you.

  6. Bill says:

    I was not a Trump supporter or a fan when he ran for the nomination. Once he was the nominee of the Republicans I had to chose between their nominee or the nominees of the other parties. Trump, the candidate, was annoying. As President, his persona can be annoying. But in my mind, Trump’s shortcomings paled in comparison to those of Hillary. I still am not fond of him but frankly, I find little to fault him on as far as his policies to date are concerned. Unemployment is down and the GNP is up. We seem to have a coherent foreign policy. I am not yet an ardent Trump fan but the continuation of of the hyperbolic media mendacity is making me one.

  7. Steve says:

    Bill, both sides suffer from this. But modern American Liberalism is being exposed for what it has become in Diane Feinstein’s latest speech. Even in context she shows what liberalism was and the responses show what it has become.
    And the right is just as bad. Sleight them and you will be crushed. Breitbart is showing this in the way only they can since Bannon left the administration.
    Supporters on both sides have forgotten what it means to govern after the election is done and it seems we have managed to create a never ending election cycle that keeps this weirdness alive and well.

  8. deleted says:

    Anyone will to take a crack at what this country’s current “foreign policy” is under Agent Orange?


  9. Leading instead of leading from behind?

  10. Steve says:

    “Donald Trump Has a Coherent, Realist Foreign Policy
    Despite the bluster, Trump is articulating a bold vision of America’s role in the world. And it demands a serious response — not the snickering of D.C. elites.”

    “Trump’s vision of the world — and his conception of statecraft — isn’t one I much like, but it reflects a fairly coherent theory of international relations. It’s realist, transactional, and Machiavellian — and it demands a serious, thoughtful, and nondefensive response.

    If those of us in the foreign-policy community can’t be bothered to offer one, a “TRUMP” sign on the White House may, in the end, be no better than we deserve.”

    According to Media Bias Fact Check Foreign Policy is a “Least Biased” organization. You really should read the whole piece.

  11. deleted says:

    So a bumper sticker slogan in lieu of an actual foreign policy?

    Seriously Thomas, what does that mean as it relates to our “relationships” with our allies? Or our adversaries? What is the real “coherent” foreign policy that Trump has enunciated through either his words or his actions?

    I sure don’t see any difference in how he has handled N. Korea, or Iran, or Afghanistan, or Germany, or England, or China (they’re still currency manipulator so and we still aren’t doing anything about it). Saudi Arabia (still bowing in front of their kings, still doing nothing to change their treatment of women still sending them weapons in spite of the fact that they’re the biggest supporter of known terrorists maybe in the entire world). The list of non change goes on, and there is “coherence” in any of it, less you’re blind or dumb.

    In fact the only real difference in this country’s foreign policy that I see is a change in how we have treated Russia.

    Course, he has alienated plenty of countries that we’ve historically considered our allies, mostly because Trump is a classless boor who treats others as he wants to without regard to anything but himself.

  12. Steve says:

    You are stuck in the mud of your own dogma, deleted (patrick)

  13. deleted says:

    “Jon Finer faults Trump for his foreign policy incoherence:

    What is different is that right now not only is there no discernible doctrine guiding President Donald Trump’s foreign policy, the United States currently has no real foreign policy at all. By that I mean not that the policies are objectionable, or that the Trump team is struggling with the learning curve each new administration faces at the outset, as it reviews its predecessors’ approach and settles on its own. Rather, I mean that we are experiencing an unprecedented degree of policy incoherence on virtually every major issue the country faces.

    “It’s too soon to say that Trump is a complete disaster, but he has been a comprehensive embarrassment abroad. He’s alienated friends and comforted adversaries. He’s been crude and foolishly pugilistic—picking a fight with the mayor of London, who is Muslim, after the recent terror attack; picking fights with friendly leaders from Australia to Germany; shoving the Montenegrin prime minister aside at a NATO summit.”


    “WHAT WAS supposed to be a rare set-piece speech by Donald Trump on foreign policy Wednesday resembled a pastiche of his off-the-cuff postulations from the campaign trail, cobbled together under the slogan “America First.” Like the previous rhetoric, his proposals were loose, frequently contradictory and embedded in a bucket of falsehoods. Of these, the biggest was Mr. Trump’s claim that he could somehow reverse the historical tides that have created a globalized economy and remedy the complex security challenges of the 21st century with a simple “plan for victory with a capital V.”


  14. deleted says:

    “President Trump’s foreign policy is sinking into incoherence from the Middle East to the Far East, with his promise of less interventionism and budget savings disappearing from view, as Ivan Eland reports.”



    “After a full month of President Trump’s leadership, we can see his foreign policy more clearly now: It’s clearly incoherent. But it could be worse.”


  15. Steve says:

    Yup, there is precious LITTLE good from the 4thstate about Trump. Very easy to find all kinds of articles trashing….nicely supportive of your dogma, deleted (patrick) you must feel all warm and fuzzy….

    From the Foreign Policy article (you didn’t read) I linked:
    “For another thing, there’s hardly a global shortage of anti-Trump tirades coming from the Fourth Estate. NBC’s Andrea Mitchell declares Trump is “completely uneducated about any part of the world.” The Washington Post’s Eugene Robinson calls Trump’s “ignorance of government policy … breathtaking.” Tara Setmayer of CNN says Trump is “wholly unqualified” to be president, while the New York Times editorial board finds Trump “disturbing” and “shockingly ignorant.”

    None of this does Trump any harm. On the contrary: Every time someone in the Media Elite pokes fun at Donald Trump, it inspires six bad-tempered middle Americans to vote for him. And every time someone in the Media Elite utters a pompous condemnation of Trump’s ignorance and folly, 17 more angry Trump voters are created. If Trump becomes president, guys, it’s gonna be your fault.”

    And they are continuing to HELP Trump!

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