Trump notes some were protesting the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue and asks: Whose statue is next?

Intolerance will not be tolerated.

President Trump took heat for at first saying many sides were responsible for the violence in Charlottesville, Va., but coming out the next day and condemning Nazis and white supremacists did nothing to placate his critics. Today he was back to blaming both sides.

“I think there is blame on both sides,” Trump said today during a press conference that sounded more like a shouting match with reporters.
“What about the ‘alt-left’ that came charging at, as you say, the ‘alt-right,’ do they have any semblance of guilt?” Trump asked, according to CNN Politics. “What about the fact they came charging with clubs in hands, swinging clubs, do they have any problem? I think they do.”
He added: “You had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. nobody wants to say it, but I will say it right now.”
He also noted that many of the protesters were not racists but were simply protesting the planned removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee — though the media consistently and indiscriminately labeled them all as white nationalists. He then asked whose statues would be removed next, suggesting those of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson might be targeted because they were both slave owners.
Identity politics — which assumes that everyone with a similar complexion, gender, gender identity, genetic composition and age all think alike — continues to divide Americans, when instead we should be recognizing that everyone is an individual with a wide spectrum of beliefs and ideas. Everyone must be shoved into a pigeon hole. No diversity of thought allowed. No heresy may be uttered.

A person described as a counter protester throws a newspaper rack at a person described as a white nationalist, though how those identities were determined is not stated. (AP pix)

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27 comments on “Trump notes some were protesting the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue and asks: Whose statue is next?

  1. deleted says:

    Agent Orange blew the lay-up, several times. Nazis are easy targets, I mean, who, in The American political history of presidents hasn’t jumped at the chance to attack them when the opportunity presents itself?

    What’s wrong with this guy? And why couldn’t he condemn the white christian fundamentalist terrorist that ran over all those people at the protest? Is he afraid to say the words? The far right attacked President Obama unmercifully for years because they claimed if he couldn’t use the words Islamic Extremeists, it must mean he either supported them, or was one of them (a charge they barely hesitated to make). Well, if Agent Orange can’t call the white, christian, fundamentalist, terrorist just that, the question must be asked; is it because he condones it, or because he’s one of them?

  2. Vernon Clayson says:

    Deleted and his agent orange crap is tiresome, Trump asking whose statue is next is a valid question, it is beyond me why the history of the nation has to be deleted, there were brave, honorable men on both sides of the War of the Rebellion, the proper name for the so-called Civil War. None of them fought to the death for their state or region, in the end each died for the man beside him, and for sure none said this is for the Negroes or slavery. How can anyone feel angry about long dead ancestors that were slaves, as many Irish were slaves as were Negroes, they got over it. Some simpleton tearing off his shirt and raising his arms in that ‘hands up, don’t shoot’ act isn’t making a statement, he can’t possibly think deeply enough to know how stupid that is, he just does it for the TV camera, his instant of fame.

  3. Steve says:

    Some of my family called it the War Of Northern Aggression, Vernon.
    Others in my Family called it the Civil War.

    Interestingly, those family members living south of the Mason Dixon line went with Northern Aggression while those ancestors of mine living north of the Mason Dixon line insisted on calling it the Civil War.
    Since my roots go back before the Revolutionary War and a civil war best describes a war between factions of a country that separate families, I will go with Civil War, thank-you.
    For military historians researching both the Confederate and Union records, War of the Rebellion is acceptable.

    Nevertheless, today’s left is insisting on revisioning the history of the nation. But families like mine have solid documentation showing what much of the reality was in our history.
    As usual, it turns out, somewhere in the middle; the truth is found.

  4. deleted says:

    Vernon coming from a man that called our previous president the “half black” “muslim” “socialist” for mch of the time he was president, when commenting here (and God knows what in more intimate settings) that’s rich.

    But here’s the thing Vernon: states rights!

    I mean, the decisions that happened in Charlottesville and in most other locals now a days where statues of various folks are on display, are being made by the local people. So, excuse me for saying so but, where does Agwnt a orange get off trying to tell those people how to handle a local or state issue?

    If they want to pull down the local statue of a person who currently non grata, and made the land a dumb, isn’t that something people on the right ought to be enthusiastically supporting all the while telling some big city, Washington bureaucrat where to stuff it?

    I’ll never understand I guess.

  5. deleted says:

    Like I said, Agent Orange had a lay-up, again, and he blew it biggly.

    And it’s not “the left” saying so, it’s everyone that knows this country has fought a war to make sure the ideas expressed by the fascists don’t see the light of day, much less the wink and the nod that the winner of the electoral college gives them.

  6. Bruce Feher says:

    You quote the NYT? That’s a joke, right?

  7. deleted says:

    Not that it will matter to you Bruce, but the story quotes pro inate republicans including Marco Rubio and Orrin Hatch among others.

    But, to each his own.

  8. deleted says:

    Should be prominent

  9. No this country did not fight a war to make sure the ideas expressed by the fascists did not see the light of day, but rather that they were proven wrong and never allowed to be implemented. Those ideas may be expressed and then shown to be wrong and unworkable, not gagged.

  10. Deleted says:

    I do apologize for the lack of precision in my use of the phrase Thomas, of course you are correct in that we fought the Nazis after they turned their words into actions.

    All of which brings me to the next point which is; must society silently by, from a legal perspective, until the words of the Nazis and white supremists actually are put into actions?

    The place where the Nazis committed their atrocities sure don’t think so and it seems to me this country can learn the lesson an easy way from their experience, or the hard way.

    One last thing before you cite the First Amendment to me, do you believe the president has the power to take preemptive military action against another country absent an express declaration of war from Congress?

  11. Preemptive, no. Defensive, yes. If Kim were to fire missiles toward Guam, even if they did not hit the island (How do we know the missiles were intended to be a shot across the bow?), Trump could arguably be justified in countering or better yet shooting down the incoming missiles.

    Thomas Jefferson did not get Congress to declare war on the Barbary pirates, but his actions could be seen as defensive because U.S. shipping had already been attacked.

  12. Steve says:

    Destruction of public property is a crime, in this the left is proving Trump correct.

    http://abc11.com/politics/4th-person-charged-in-destruction-of-durham-confederate-statue/2313763/

  13. deleted says:

    I see that Agent Orange is sad that so many of these beautiful statues are being taken down; maybe he could find a place for them at his hotels and/or homes? Anyone know how many statues of Confederate heros there are now standing at a Trump properties?

    Apparently though, descendants of Jackson and Lee are among those who are happy to see these symbols of racism go.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/08/17/trump-said-hes-sad-to-see-confederate-statutes-coming-down-descendants-of-confederate-leaders-disagree/

  14. Barbara says:

    Why does the left not demand the dissolution of the Democratic party? After all, as pointed outby Mark Levin, the KKK, Jim Crow laws, and slavery itself was supported exclusively by the Democratic Party. Democrats supported and upheld Plessy vs. Ferguson laws, as well as the Dred Scott Case. The darling of the left, Franklin Roosevelt appointed racists Hugo Black to the Supreme Court. Black was a member of the KKK. Roosevelt also interned Japanese in camps during WWII. Shouldn’t all these historical figures as well as that racist Democratic Pary be stricken from our history? The Democratic Party was at the center of the Confederacy, but who is protesting and demanding it be dissolved?

  15. deleted says:

    Boy the far right has really come unhinged haven’t they?

    I guess it’s a consequence of first abandoning whatever “principles” they claim to have had when they went all in to support Agent Orange.

    Now, even their gorge at his reprehensible conduct can’t stop them from tribalism so they will spiral down with him rather than do the principled thing.

    Like I said, it’s a lay up folks; attack the Nazis and win the day. Don’t, and lose”

    Biggly.

  16. Steve says:

    Wow the AI203 headgear is on full display today!

  17. The right-wing practices tribalism? It is the left-wing that imposes identity politics.

  18. deleted says:

    The right wing claimed that Trump wasn’t one of theirs, and that racism wasn’t theirs and yet, after Trump came out with the statements he did, which some on even the right have called out as being racist, many more on the right ignore what he did and continue their support which iin my humble opinion demonstrates that they are blinding themselves to their principles and giving themselves over to tribalism.

  19. Rincon says:

    Both sides are tribal in the most important sense. If one of their own team does something, it’s OK; if someone on the other team does it, they cry foul.

  20. deleted says:

    I agree Rincon.

  21. Sorry, I’ve heard a lot of Republicans criticize Trump for being tone deaf.

  22. Steve says:

    I read a piece the other day that claims there are only 6 Senators standing between Trump and impeachment should the House actually vote to impeach.
    2018 is not far away.

    And I have not been supportive of Trump since before he took the nomination. I also did not vote for Trump.

  23. Vernon Clayson says:

    And the articles of impeachment would be what high crime or misdemeanor????

  24. Steve says:

    Piece I was reading only studied the numbers, Vernon.

  25. deleted says:

    And I’ve heard lots of republicans either defend him or ignore his statements.

  26. Vernon Clayson says:

    Steve, never mind polls, polls showed Hillary Clinton would swamp Trump, don’t you wonder if the House members would dare bring this much attention to themselves only a few months before their 2018 campaigns?? To say nothing of the Senators that have to run in 2018, they all aren’t as whacked as John McCain or Elizabeth Warren, or Lindsay Graham who seems to find strength in his bromance with McCain.

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