Sandoval asks Obama to check out refugees first

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval got around Monday evening to sending a letter to President Obama politely asking him to please not send any Syrian refugees to Nevada until it has reviewed the vetting process — joining more than half of all American governors in saying Syrian refugees are not welcome in their states.

The main problem with Sandoval’s request is that there is no vetting process that will work. There are no records to vet.

“I am writing today to request that you direct a comprehensive review of the refugee eligibility, security oversight, and resettlement process in our nation,” Sandoval writes. “My staff has reviewed current guidelines form the U.S. State Department but I am encouraging you to make a further review and consider necessary refinements to these policies and practices given the recent tragedy in France. I am specifically concerned about background checks performed for Syrian refugees sent to Nevada for resettlement, and I would appreciate further guidance on the benefits eligibility of such persons while they reside here.”

He apparently doesn’t want to put any terrorists on the dole.

Sandoval concludes by asking that no Syrian refugees be admitted for resettlement in Nevada until the requested review is completed.

About 1,500 Syrian refugees entered the U.S. in recent years and Obama said in September that 10,000 Syrians will be allowed entry next year.

After the backlash since the Paris attack that killed about 130, Obama has doubled down and called those who oppose his plan unAmerican.

But last month FBI director James Comey said at a House Committee on Homeland Security, “We can only query against that which we have collected. And so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interest reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but there will be nothing show up because we have no record of them.”

Obama instead lashed out at GOP presidential candidates who questioned bringing in refugees that might include jihadists. “When some of those folks themselves come from families who benefitted from protection when they were fleeing political persecution, that’s shameful,” Obama said. “That’s not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion.”

Investor’s Business Daily notes that we’ve already failed to catch some would-be terrorists who did have records.

“In 2011 two Iraqi refugees were arrested for trying to buy stinger missiles for al-Qaida. “It turned out that their fingerprints matched those linked to roadside bombs in Iraq,” the newspaper said. “It was a major red flag that should have barred their entry, but U.S. screeners failed to take note. And the terrorists slipped into the U.S.”

ISIS claims it has sent out 4,000 “warriors” among the 4 million Syrian refugees.

Compassion is one thing. Foolish risk taking with American lives is not acceptable.

Of course the governors have no authority whatsoever to stop Obama from doing whatever he wants, but, since he is always concerned about legacy and politics, he might pause and consider how this will affect Democrat candidates.

 

sandoval letter

Earlier, Sen. Dean Heller wrote to Sandoval saying:

While I recognize the merits of assisting refugees during a time of crisis, I also need assurances that the safety of Nevadans will not be compromised as a result of accepting refugees. Unfortunately, at this time, there are too many unanswered questions about the effectiveness of this program and ultimately the number of Syrian refugees who may have come to our state after being resettled elsewhere in the U.S. Until my questions have been sufficiently answered by DHS and the State Department and I believe that this program no longer presents a threat to Nevadans, I encourage you to reject any further acceptance of Syrian refugees in the State of Nevada. The safety of Nevadans should be our top priority, and the Administration must prove to Congress and the American public that the USRAP process is working in Nevadans’ best interests before committing to bringing in additional Syrian refugees.

 

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63 comments on “Sandoval asks Obama to check out refugees first

  1. nyp says:

    Land of the free and the home of the chicken.

  2. nyp says:

    Here are two facts that Mr.Mitchell decided not to mention:
    1) it takes up to two years for a refugee application to be processed and get through a security background check.
    2) a refugee bears the burden of proof of demonstrating that neither he nor any member of his family has ever been affiliated with a terrorist group.

  3. Steve says:

    Take women, girls, boys under ten and men over 50 years old. All other males remain.
    Drop weapons and ammo on the ground and wait for the men to settle the issue.

  4. Patrick says:

    Best advice about what to do.

    “If we don’t, the terrorists win”
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-you-should-really-respond-to-a-terrorist-attack-2015-11-17

  5. Anonymous says:

    Oh, and the not really amazing thing about the “more than half of governors” story?

    They are ALL republicans (save one)

    Idiots

  6. I’d rather be a live chicken…than a dead Obama cheerleader. The Syrians we are talking about that are now seeking asylum have not been waiting for 18 -24 months, so there’s no way they have been vetted. The FBI is having trouble keeping up with the possible radicalized ISIS wannabe’s already present in all 50 states.

    FBI director James Comey said during a House Committee on Homeland Security hearing on Wednesday that the federal government does not have the ability to conduct thorough background checks on all of the 10,000 Syrian refugees that the Obama administration says will be allowed to come to the U.S.

    “We can only query against that which we have collected,” Comey said in response to a line of questioning from Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson .

    “And so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interest reflected in our database, we can query our database until the cows come home, but there will be nothing show up because we have no record of them.”

  7. “We don’t have it under control,” said Mr. Michael Steinback, Assistant Director for the Federal Bureau of Investigation. “Absolutely, we’re doing the best we can. If I were to say that we had it under control, then I would say I know of every single individual traveling. I don’t. And I don’t know every person there and I don’t know everyone coming back. So it’s not even close to being under control.”

    “Would bringing in Syrian refugees pose a greater risk to Americans?” asked McCaul.

    “Yes, I’m concerned,” said Steinback. “We’ll have to go take a look at those lists and go through all of those intelligence holdings and be very careful to try and identify connections to foreign terrorist groups.”

  8. It would seem that concerns listed in the the last two paragraphs of Governor Sandoval’s letter are valid and that his request would be the PRUDENT way to proceed…

  9. Patrick says:

    America didn’t become the land of the free and the home of the BRAVE by being chicken.

    Maybe re-read the article from MarketWatch about how best to handle “terrorism”; its not by being chicken. In fact, its the opposite.

    Republican governors are doing exactly what we SHOULD NOT be doing; catering to the terrorists by feeding into what they want us to feed into; being CHICKEN.

    The idiots.

  10. txhoosick says:

    The vetting process may prove to be difficult. Recently my wife and I were in Budapest on holiday. Our stay was elongated in that beautiful city when Austria closed it’s border with Hungary due to the refugee influx, suspending all vehicle, foot, and train traffic. The local papers indicated that the Syrian refugees were burning their passports as they crossed the Hungarian border in an effort to establish a new start in the EU. Of course, once in Hungary, they could move freely throughout the EU without showing any identification whatsoever, much as we do between states here in the good old USA. This does it make it somewhat difficult to vet the anticipated thousands of refugees, and allows the bad guys to mix in easily with the legitimate migrants fleeing oppression and war in Syria and other hot spots in southwest Asia.

  11. nyp says:

    You know, I really don’t mean to belittle the concern. What happened in Paris was horrifying. And even though most of the attackers were French or Belgian nationals, it is still possible that one of the attackers came into Europe as a refugee over the summer and slipped into a terrorist network. So people have a right to ask tough questions about screening procedures and to demand absolute viligence.

    On the other hand, the level of zenophobia and political grandstanding on this sensitive, complex issue has been very disturbing. Our screening procedures are extremely tough. We have admitted very, very few refugees. We have moral and legal obligations, as well as strategic interests in demonstrating that people fleeing jihadist violence have some place to go in order to rebuild their lives. And when I listen to all they hysteria about foreign threats, I recall how our country refused to take in many German jewish refugees in the 1930s.

    Can’t we calm down about this, refrain from making it into a “hate Obama” moment, and try to work through this problem like adults?

  12. How many Christians from Syria and Iraq has the administration given refugee status to…and how many of them has the administration relocated here?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/magazine/is-this-the-end-of-christianity-in-the-middle-east.html?_r=0

  13. nyp says:

    You mean we should apply religious tests to refugees?

  14. I do believe it is the governors who are asking for calm and considered thought, instead of throwing open the gates.

  15. “Can’t we calm down about this, refrain from making it into a “hate Obama” moment, and try to work through this problem like adults?” This from the one who calls anyone who asks pertinent questions and who seeks to be prudent before trudging ahead…chickens?

  16. nyp says:

    Gee, I haven’t seen anyone pouring through the American gates — have you? In the past four years we have let in only 2,000 refugees from ISIS and Assad. From 2000 to 2014 we only admitted 200. A typical screening/vetting process takes two years.
    Open gates?

    As I said, the level political posturing over a humanitarian crisis is deplorable.

  17. nyp says:

    I should not have called you a chicken.
    Instead, I should have called you a political opportunist.

  18. Steve says:

    nyp is also using the screen name Patrick?

  19. nyp says:

    do you agree that we should apply religious tests to refugees?

  20. Patrick says:

    Sorry Thomas, the republican governors are not asking for thoughtful consideration, they are playing to their audience and casting all refugees from these war torn areas as terrorists to appease their frightened republican constituents.

    Asserting that Texas will prevent ALL Syrian refugees (which is consistent with the stupidity coming out of Texas governors lately since immigration is a federal question) from being relocated to Texas. Or the republican governor of Arkansas shouting that he won’t allow ANY Syrians to be relocated there, and even the most liberal of all republican governors like Christy stating that he’d keep out even infants/orphans, under the age of 5 years old.

    Playing to the xenophobic fearful types that seem to dominate republican ranks these days is a winning formula, but that’s only because the republican party is full of chickens.

    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/paris-attacks-gop-governors-refuse-accept-syrian-refugees

  21. So, if one is being shot at, it is chicken to duck?

  22. nyp says:

    You have been shot at by an ISIS terrorist posing as one of the handful of Syrian refugees who have been admitted to the US?

    You know, it has been a year since you guys were freaking out about how Ebola was going to kill us all.
    Shouldn’t you take a chill pill?

  23. nyp says:

    OK, so “brian” joins the ranks of those who think we should use religious tests for admitting political refugees.

  24. Some more common sense questions: Does it make sense to relocate refugees from a hot desert climate to a European climate of seasonal cold and snow? Also…there seems to be a large number of “economic” refugees from Syria…should those receive equal status with those whose lives are in peril? Why aren’t the Syrian refugees who are largely Muslim…being located to other Muslim countries in the surrounding region?

  25. It seems you…little nyper, and your president you are so eager to defend, are the ones with the religious test…as no Syrian Christians have been a part of the administrations relocation efforts.

  26. nyp says:

    no religious test has been imposed by the US on any refugee, and none should ever be imposed. I can’t think of anything more un-American.
    Your statements concerning “cold-weather climates” are just absurd.
    And the United States does not recognize the concept of “economic refugees.” A person seeking refuge for economic reasons is ineligible for admission.

  27. And another question…according to the maps and stories I reviewed yesterday…as many as 50 Syrian refugees have already been relocated to the Las Vegas & Clark County Nevada. Where any of you aware of that?

  28. If the administration has imposed no religious test…why are all of the refugees relocated here thus far…been Muslim? And while we’re at it little nyper…national safety and security should take precedence over politics one would surmise…yet it’s you and the president you so ardently defend that keeps humming that Democrat party tune. So who are the REAL political opportunists?

  29. Steve says:

    That explains all the recent shootings and the house fire with the tied up bodies yesterday….

    Thanks, nyp/patrick

  30. And speaking of absurd…who is footing the bill for flying the Syrian refugees to America. And who is footing the bill to bus or fly them across the country…and who is paying to house, feed and cloth them? For the persecuted Christian Syrian & Iraqi refugees…those costs are born by private benefactors and institutions such as the Barnabas Fund, the Nazarene Project and the Canadian “Schindler” Steve Maman.

  31. nyp says:

    why don’t you go visit the refugees who have been re-settled in Clark County and ask them their stories?
    Learning about the lives of people displace by genocidal conflict would constitute a good start to the Christmas season.

  32. What Me Worry says:

    A simple thought, do not admit them-PERIOD! Follow parts of the Marshall Plan. The refugees are in Europe, pretty much under control of those tasked to their feeding & housing. Great! Now if Unk wants to do something positive to help them, send food, additional housing etc. over to their hosting nations. Keep them in their comfort zones over there. If the US is helping with their needs over there, the refugees won’t to be forced to endure more culture shock by being brought here. Even POTUS can assure his legacy as ‘humanitarin’ by supporting them outside of being here in CONUS generally and NV in particular.

  33. Steve says:

    They wouldn’t experiencing “genocidal conflict” if they were as well armed as we in the USA are.

  34. nyp says:

    You don’t think that there are enough weapons in Syria right now.

  35. Patrick says:

    We can all hope that the same republicans responsible for “breaking” the middle east into what it has become today as part of their war against reason, are the same ones responsible for paying for those poor people to come to the (former) land of the brave.

    I mean, you might think that was what the “personal responsibility” chant repeated by these guys meant right?

    Lets dip into the bush fortune and get HIM to pay cause after all, he was the one (along with his minions and supporters) who decided the middle east would be a better place for everyone so long as we invaded.

  36. Steve says:

    I think intolerant, totalitarian regimes prevent average people from defending themselves in the middle east, leaving those who don’t have any morals to do all the killing they like.

  37. nyp says:

    “”At first they were too scared of the press being too tough on them in the debates,” said Obama per the pool report. “Now they are scared of three year old orphans. That doesn’t seem so tough to me.”

    Obama also argued that he “cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for ISIL than some of the rhetoric coming out of here in the course of this debate” than the idea of discriminating against Muslim refugees.

    “ISIL seeks to exploit the idea that there’s war between Islam and the West,” Obama said “and when you start seeing individuals in position of responsibility suggesting Christians are more worthy of protection than Muslims are in a war-torn land that feeds the ISIL narrative. It’s counter productive. And it needs to stop.”

  38. nyp says:

    Remember last year, when you guys wanted to ban all incoming travel from Africa because otherwise we would all die from Ebola?

    Whatever happened with that?

  39. nyp says:

    Do you know which country commited itself today to taking in 30,000 refugees from ISIS?

    France.

  40. Steve says:

    You know whats really sad about that, nypatrick?
    France believes this situation will continue at this level for at least the next two years.

  41. ”At first they were too scared of the press being too tough on them in the debates,” said Obama per the pool report. “Now they are scared of three year old orphans. That doesn’t seem so tough to me.”
    This from the chief of the political opportunists…the one who on numerous occasions has jumped into the fray before knowing ANY of the facts on the ground. Just for the record…I think Congress should approve the importation of all widows and three year old Syrian refugees TODAY!

  42. I notice NONE of our resident leftists commented on the post by txhoosick above…they just want to dance around with their hair on fire.

  43. nyp says:

    Nothing to comment on. If one does not have identification, and a vettable history, one cannot pass the U.S.’s background check procedure, which takes up to two years and is extraordinarily stringent.

    and yes, it is likely that the refugee crisis will last for at least two years.

  44. Obama says that ISIS is contained…so the refugees can go back home.

  45. nyp says:

    huh??
    how could they go back to an area that is still controlled either by ISIS or by Assad?
    your comment is dumb

  46. […] Obama continues to mock those who suggest we go slow in importing potential future terrorists to our shore. “They’ve been playing on fear […]

  47. nyp says:

    Well, it is true. You have been playing on fear and ignorance.
    Just like last year with the Ebola hysteria.
    Or the “World Trade Center Mosque” a few years earlier.

  48. No little nyper…the DUMB comment is “Isis is contained.”

  49. nyp says:

    Actually, President Obama is correct. ISIS has indeed been contained. In the unlikely event that some readers might be interested in context, here is the context of the President’s statement:

    Stephanopoulos: “Some of your critics say, even your friendly critics say, like Fareed Zakaria, that what you have on the ground now is not going to be enough. Every couple of months you’re going to be faced with the same choice of back down or double down.”

    Obama: “I think what is true is that this has always been a multiyear project precisely because the governance structures in the Sunni areas of Iraq are weak, and there are none in Syria. And we don’t have ground forces there in sufficient numbers to simply march into Al-Raqqah in Syria and clean the whole place out. And as a consequence, we’ve always understood that our goal has to be militarily constraining ISIL’s capabilities, cutting off their supply lines, cutting off their financing at the same time as we’re putting a political track together in Syria and fortifying the best impulses in Baghdad so that we can, not just win militarily, but also win by improving governance.”

    Stephanopoulos: “And that’s the strategy you’ve been following. But ISIS is gaining strength, aren’t they?”

    Obama: “Well, no, I don’t think they’re gaining strength. What is true is that from the start, our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria they’ll come in, they’ll leave. But you don’t see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain. What we have not yet been able to do is to completely decapitate their command and control structures. We’ve made some progress in trying to reduce the flow of foreign fighters.”

  50. “Democrat Dianne Feinstein is breaking with President Barack Obama once again on ISIS, saying that the terrorist organization is not contained. President Obama had made a comment to the effect that ISIS was under control in an interview with ABC News that aired just hours ahead of the ISIS attacks that struck Paris, France on Friday night.”

    “I’ve never been more concerned,” the senior senator from California told MSNBC Monday. “I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained. ISIL is expanding.”

    “Fienstein is no back-bench Democrat, first elected in 1992; she is also the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee.”

    “They just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. I think we have to be prepared,” said Feinstein, showing a degree of common sense that is uncommon among her party’s leaders.”

    “There’s only one way we are going to diminish them, and that is by taking them out.”

  51. Let me boil it down for you little nyper…”ISIL is NOT contained, ISIL IS EXPANDING” Diane Feinstein, Senior Democrat Senator CA., ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

  52. nyp says:

    I will boil it down for you in return: The strategy of ISIS has been to expand geographically — to form an actual state in the Middle East. That strategy is being defeated, and, and the President has said, ISIS is being geographically contained. They have lost 25% of their territory. In reaction to their setbacks, ISIS has decided to expand its international terrorist activities. That change in tactics needs to be addressed by the Western powers, plus Russia plus the Gulf States.

  53. Patrick says:

    Bumper stickers. It is what republicans best understand, even when they don’t understand them.

    Here’s one you’ll like:

    “Mission Accomplished”

  54. Rincon says:

    In both Iraq and Afghanistan, we’ve been fought to a stalemate with a foe that wears sandals and makes their munitions in shacks while we are bankrupting ourselves. Warfare has changed. Someday, maybe you’ll figure that out.

  55. What Me Worry? says:

    Kinda like in Vietnam, Somalia and a number of African countries, etc, etc.

    Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. (Santayana)

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