Don’t let Kasich back on the debate stage

John Kasich of Ohio. (AP photo)

Get a hook.

I couldn’t tell you who won the Republican debate Tuesday night, but I can tell you who should not be allowed anywhere near any stage again.

John Kasich, the governor of Ohio, as if he would ever let anyone forget that, was petulant, pathetic, redundant and boring, besides being wrong on many of the issues.

He interrupted others without having anything important to say. He apparently was told be forceful, but not told what to say or when to shut up. It was all amateur hour. He even got booed for saying banks should’ve been bailed out.

KASICH: As an executive, I would figure out how to separate those people who can afford it versus those people, or the hard-working folks who put those money in those institutions…

(BOOING) … let me — no, no. Let me say another thing. Here’s what I mean by that. Here’s what I mean by that.

(UNKNOWN) Oh, great.

KASICH: When you are faced — when you are faced, in the last financial crisis, with banks going under — with banks going under, and people, people who put their — their life savings in there, you got to deal with it. You can’t turn a blind eye to it.

Now, going forward, that’s one thing. If you had another financial crisis, perhaps there would be an effort to make sure that we do

Let’s hope we don’t have to see his scowling countenance again.

Who wants to hear another pathetic exchange like this:

BAKER: Let’s talk about — No, no, Governor, I really must move on. I really want to move on.

Mr. Trump, let’s talk about the international economy…

KASICH: …Mr. Baker, everybody got to talk about taxes…

BAKER: …We really need to move on…

KASICH: …I think you were coming to me and then…

BAKER: …No, governor, I promise I will come to you…

KASICH: …Look, I hate to crash the party to you, Mr. Baker, but, you know, what’s fair…

BAKER: …Listen…

KASICH: …Yes, sir…

Don’t let him crash the party again.

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54 comments on “Don’t let Kasich back on the debate stage

  1. nyp says:

    He isn’t the former Governor of Ohio

  2. Steve says:

    Fun polls

    Hillary loses to Carson if general election were held today…run Hillary! Run her!

  3. hocuspocus13 says:

    And on the earlier stage Jindal has to go

  4. Patrick says:

    Here’s a fun poll:

    Sharoon Angle crushes Sen. Majority Leader Reid.

  5. Steve says:

    Revisionist, fictional history to salve the wounded liberal.

    fantasy helps Patrick live through the day!

  6. Barbara says:

    Rubio is much better in this format than Kasich or Bush, but I don’t see much difference in their policies. Rubio will survive based on his style and the perception that he is a conservative, but his time in the Senate indicate he is much like both Bush and Kasich. Rubio’s big money donors (Paul Singer) are very liberal on social issues (pro abortion, gay marriage) and advocating for open borders including amnesty. Rubio indicates he is pro-life but Singer openly supports Planned Parenthood. I see it coming down to Rubio representing the establishment and Cruz representing conservatives. It’s gonna be interesting.

  7. Never heard of margin of error?

    Or that union members being bused to the polls were underrepresented in the polls?

  8. Steve says:

    Just enough for the stripper, one poll.

    Reids polling was accurate…….get with the program!

  9. Patrick says:

    “Sherman Frederick, publisher of the R-J, said he was dissatisfied with the result.

    “We pay for the poll, and we expect accuracy,” Frederick said. “We obviously didn’t get the kind of accuracy we expected, and we’re going to have to ask some questions about where the breakdown occurred.”

    http://lasvegassun.com/news/2010/nov/04/review-journal-flunks-when-it-comes-polls-republic/

  10. Steve says:

    Any time you can get internal polling info from a reliable source, and both papers reported on the Reid internal polling, you should trust it.

    But, Patrick, go ahead and live in your fantasy world.

    Here’s a bunch of polls, all in one place, nice! Run Hillary, RUN!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_carson_vs_clinton-5119.html

  11. Steve says:

    Run Hillary! Run her!

  12. It’s high time to whittle down the number of potential candidates…my top six are Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Carly Fiorina, Marco Rubio, Dr. Ben Carson, and Donald Trump. To me the number one issue is illegal immigration, followed closely by the economy & the bloated federal government monstrosity.

  13. I would reverse that order, Brien.

  14. Barbara says:

    Brien – agree with you on the top issues. The next President will probably have the opportunity to appoint several Supreme Court Justices so I am also looking at who is best positioned to appoint conservative jurists . Cruz’s time clerking for Chief Justice Rehnquist, knowing the inner workings of the Court, his time as Solicitor General in Texas give him an advantage in vetting candidates others do not have. A conservative President may need the Court to uphold the Constitution when Congress will not act given the Washington Cartel’s hold on politicians. Cruz successfully defended state sovereignty against an overreach by the Bush administration. He will know the right questions to ask any potential candidate.

    I would rule out Rand Paul because of his support for Mitch McConnell in the Kentucky primary against a conservative, and Fiorina because she needs to put out a tax and growth plan instead of just saying the tax code should be cut down to 3 pages and she would use Zero based budgeting. Until I see more specifics I don’t consider her a serious candidate.

  15. nyp says:

    And Rubio?

  16. Barbara says:

    What is your question concerning Rubio?

  17. nyp says:

    No, really. I’m interested in what the super-duper far right thinks of the Candidate of the Month.

  18. Steve says:

    “Candidate of the Month”

    bait

  19. And we’d like to know who the little nyper is supporting for president (from the ultra far left)…inquiring minds want to know!

  20. Steve says:

    nyp’s a Clinton groupie!

  21. nyp says:

    I supported Hillary in ’08 and I support her now. No surprise.
    As for Rubio, although I disagree with him on many issues, I salute him for his leadership role two years ago in obtaining Senate passage of an immigration amnesty bill.

  22. Barbara says:

    What makes me “super-duper far right” as opposed to “conservative”?

  23. nyp says:

    You are a super-duper far right person because you do not believe in public education, because you think that Medicare and Social Security are unconstitutional, because you do not believe in the separation of church and state, and because you embrace the out-of-the-mainstream economics championed by people like Thomas Mitchell and Ron Paul.

    A conventional conservative is a James Baker-Richard Nixon-Henry Kissinger-Gerald Ford type.

    I’m not criticizing you for being super-duper far right (at least, not in this post.) Just describing reality.

  24. Steve says:

    “out-of-the-mainstream”

    Pretty much nails the message, anyone who might fit that selective description is considered extreme. By both sides of the “in the mainstream” political world.

    Trouble is, there is is no “normal” there is only philosophical relativity.

  25. Barbara says:

    NYP – I’m not offended by the term – just wondered what you considered super-duper far right as opposed to just plain ole conservative. I don’t consider any of the people you named as even being conservative. James Baker was definitely a Bush guy and opposed Reagan.

    Now my take on Rubio – I would place him in the same category as all the people you named. I think if he was elected President with Ryan as Speaker and McConnell as Senate Majority Leader the first bill passed would be amnesty. I do not see him being committed to downsizing the scope or reach of the government. I do not see Obamacare being repealed and replaced. I think he talked a good talk when he ran against Crist to get his senate seat, but his votes and support for true conservative, limited government has been milk toast at best. I think he is a go along to get along guy who would not change the direction of the country in any significant way. He would tinker at the edges instead of “painting with bold colors”. I’m more of a bold color person.

  26. Nyp says:

    I agree that he isn’t close to your idea of conservative, but, OTOH, his tax plan would cut tax receipts by a huge amount.

  27. Don’t you just love it when a progressive leftist (socialist) big government Democrat defines for us what a (conventional) conservative is?

  28. Patrick says:

    “Conservative” (and liberal for that matter) are relative. Trying to identify some static place on a political spectrum where anyone fits is dumb. Heck don’t conservatives try and claim that the once labeled liberal democratic president from Masseschusetts JFK would “today” be more likened to a conservative or at least much farther to the right on the political scale than he once was thought to be? Or take a conservative hero like Reagan. The guy raised taxes more than any president, increased the size of government, and the federal debt to heretofore unknown levels. Let terrorists kill American Marines in Beiruit without consequence, and broke Amerocqn law repeatedly by arming terrorists in Iran, and El Salvador, and lied constantly to Congress, under oath, so that he could fund pre-Al Quida troops in Pakistan all the while allowing AQ Khan and the Pakistqni government to spread nuclear weapon technology to all the countries we are fighting (and dying) to stop from using that technology today.

    In no other time, that I’m aware of, in American history, including today, could Reqgqn have taken such actions, and be called a “conservative” but there are those who would.

    It’s a silly exercise to try and claim that the spectrum of what is and what isn’t a conservative or a liberal, isn’t always shifting, and it’s mostly done for manipulative purposes when it is done.

  29. Barbara says:

    Are there any Blue Dog Democrats left? I haven’t heard of one in several years. I guess they would not be welcome in the Democratic party any more just as the Republican Party doesn’t really want the Tea Party.

  30. Steve says:

    Oh…..no!

    Aside from the diatribe about Reagan and JFK,

    Patrick and are in agreement!

  31. Steve says:

    Just couldn’t push the letter “I” when posting that

    😉

  32. Patrick says:

    But as I said, even though “conservatives” “claim” Reqgqn as their one true hero…in theory, the facts are that he repeatedly acted in ways that would find him labeled a liberal were he to run today; bigger government, bigger debt, funding terrorists, allowing countries to spread nuclear weapon technology, turning tail and running after US troops are killed by terrorists in Beirut, effectively abandoning Israel.

    Hard to see that record leading to much astro turf support required today to wear a “conservative” badge.

  33. Barbara says:

    So says the far left

  34. Steve says:

    It’s obvious from tonight’s posts,

    Patrick should be a Libertarian.

  35. Patrick says:

    So says the far, far, far, right.

    And there are things libertarians believe that I believe. But, more often than not, they are as wrong as communists are about lots of things, because they deny that people are people.

  36. Steve says:

    Patrick categorizing people into his little compartments is a compliment.

    I am in good company, Barbara.

  37. Rincon says:

    Kind if stains Reagan’s hero image, Patrick. He was a lot like Obama, wasn’t he? But he was a Conservative in one big way: He was a champion for the rich and began the long march of income inequality. I guess he can still be their hero.

  38. Barbara says:

    You can spin Reagan’s record, but what is crystal clear is that Reagan, unlike Obama, united people as evidenced by his overwhelming reelection. Obama will never have this legacy no matter how the left falsely promotes his policies. Obama leaves office with a stagnant economy, a 20 trillion debt, a Democratic Party weaker than ever as evidence by the solid gains of Republican office holders in the states, and an unstable world as evidence by conflicts in the Middle East, Ukraine, and Africa.

  39. nyp says:

    Gee, I thought Obama was also re-elected with ease. Bill Clinton, too.
    Maybe I’m misremembering something.

  40. Patrick says:

    Facts are facts. Reagan increased taxes often and a lot. Reagan increased the size of the national debt more than any previous president. Reagan sent arms to terrorists in Many countries, not limited to Iran, Nicaruagua, El Salvador and Pakistan/Afganistan. Reagan increased the size of the federal government, and also increased the number of regulations that businesses operated under. Reagan signed statements, required by law, under penalty of perjury, that Pakistan was not proliferating nuclear weapon technology, as a condition of sending them billions of dollars in US that they then funneled into the war, all the while KNOWING, that this was a lie. Reagan ordered American troops out of Beirut after the Marine barracks was bombed and over 200 Marines died.

    All of this is fact, and none of it would be, today, if a liberal did it, be considered much other than wrong and worse. But certainly not the act of a “conservative”

  41. Barbara says:

    Reagan won a decisive victory, carrying all states except Minnesota, Mondale’s home state, and the District of Columbia. He received 54,455,074 popular votes to Mondale’s total of 37,577,185. In the electoral college the count was Reagan, 525, and Mondale, 13.

    Bill Clinton vs. Robert Dole vs. H. Ross Perot vs. Ralph Nader

    Although Clinton won a decisive victory, he carried a mere four Southern states, signaling a decline in Southern support for Democrats who historically could count on the area as an electoral stronghold. Later, in the elections of 2000 and 2004, Democrats did not carry a single Southern state.

    During this election the Democratic National Committee was accused of accepting donations from Chinese contributors. Non-American citizens are forbidden by law from donating to U.S. politicians, and 17 people were later convicted for the activity. (You have to ask youself, Why did the Chinese want Clinton to be President.)

    Popular Vote: 45,590,703 (Clinton) to 37,816,307 (Dole)Electoral College: 379 (Clinton) to 159 (Dole)

    Obama vs. Romney vs. Johnson

    Popular Vote: 65,446,032 (Obama) to 60,589,084 (Romney) Electoral College: 332 (Obama) to 206 (Romney)

    Clearly neither Clinton nor Obama’s reelection carried the landslide victory enjoyed by Reagan. No way to spin Mondale receiving only 13 electoral votes.,

  42. Steve says:

    Patrick pre-spun that.

    Reagan was liberal! (according to the pre-spin.)

  43. nyp says:

    Of course, you know who else won re-election by an overwhelming margin (520 electoral votes) and must therefore be counted as a great unifying figure in American life?

    Nixon.

  44. Barbara says:

    Very good NYP. I think his popularity was based largely on foreign affairs. Wasn’t this the first Presidential election that 18 year olds could vote?

  45. nyp says:

    Yeah, it was all those kids voting for Nixon in droves.
    They loved the guy.

  46. Steve says:

    Nixon wanted to dig a mote around Massachusetts!

    BTW, does France have a second amendment? Cuz, ya know it seems like they should since they had one of nyp’s moments today….

    “Attacks are ‘outrageous attempt to terrorise innocent civilians’, says Barack Obama”
    The Guardian

    WHAT? No calls for more “common sense” gun laws? WTF!!!

  47. Steve says:

    Oops…moat, not mote.

  48. Steve says:

    At least 160 dead…..rip.

    The answer better be vicious.

  49. Rincon says:

    FDR won 4 Presidential elections in a row. I guess that makes him a great unifying figure in American life too.

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