Trump is nothing more than a Clinton stalking horse

Donald Trump proved Thursday evening at the GOP debate that he is nothing more than a Clinton stalking horse by refusing to pledge to support the eventual Republican nominee and not run as an independent. Trump is not a Republican, and anyone who continues to support him is a gullible fool.

A third party bid by Trump would hand the election to Hillary Clinton, just as Ross Perot did for Bill Clinton in 1992.

Even after moderator Bret Baier pointed this out, Trump mumbled this nonsense:

I cannot say. I have to respect the person that, if it’s not me, the person that wins, if I do win, and I’m leading by quite a bit, that’s what I want to do. I can totally make that pledge. If I’m the nominee, I will pledge I will not run as an independent. But — and I am discussing it with everybody, but I’m, you know, talking about a lot of leverage. We want to win, and we will win. But I want to win as the Republican. I want to run as the Republican nominee.

Rand Paul jumped in and said, “He’s already hedging his bet on the Clintons, OK? So if he doesn’t run as a Republican, maybe he supports Clinton, or maybe he runs as an independent … but I’d say that he’s already hedging his bets because he’s used to buying politicians.”

Then Trump firmly stated, “I will not make the pledge at this time.”

That is because he supports Clinton and has never been a real Republican.

Karl Rove pointed this out in a Wall Street Journal piece on Wednesday, which asked which Trump will show up at the debate:

Will the Trump who walks on stage Thursday night be the one who in 1999 told CNN’s Larry King that “I’m quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care”? The one who wrote in his 2000 book, “The America We Deserve,” that the U.S. should consider a single-payer health system like Canada’s government-run plan? That system “helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans,” this Trump wrote. “We need, as a nation, to re-examine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing.” Or will debate viewers instead get the Donald Trump who earlier this year called ObamaCare a “filthy lie” and “total catastrophe”?

Clintons at Trump wedding in 2005. (Getty Images via WaPo)

Trump has been both pro-choice and pro-life, both for the Second Amendment and for a ban on assault weapons, both for tax hikes and against them. He has been for immigration amnesty but now makes hay by calling illegal immigrants killers and rapists.

Trump was a registered Democrat in 2004 when he said in a television interview, “It just seems that the economy does better under Democrats.”

He has contributed thousands of dollars to the likes of Harry Reid, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Charlie Rangel and Shelley Berkley, according to Federal Election Commission records.

In 2012 in a television interview, Trump praised Hillary Clinton, saying, “Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard. And I think, again, she’s given an agenda, it is not all of her, but I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her.”

So why is he running against her three years later? Or is he?

In the debate between the GOP also-runs earlier in the day Thursday, Carly Fiorina nailed the quid pro quo between Trump and the Clintons by asking rhetorically:

Well, I don’t know. I didn’t get a phone call from Bill Clinton before I jumped in the race. Did any of you get a phone call from Bill Clinton? I didn’t. Maybe it’s because I hadn’t given money to the foundation or donated to his wife’s Senate campaign.

Here’s the thing that I would ask Donald Trump in all seriousness. He is the party’s frontrunner right now, and good for him.

I think he’s tapped into an anger that people feel. They’re sick of politics as usual. You know, whatever your issue, your cause, the festering problem you hoped would resolved, the political class has failed you. That’s just a fact, and that’s what Donald Trump taps into.

I would also just say this. Since he has changed his mind on amnesty, on health care and on abortion, I would just ask, what are the principles by which he will govern?

As for what Trump said during the debate, he was evasive and unresponsive to direct questions about things he has said. He offered nothing of substance. He was an empty suit with a smirk on his face.

 

 

 

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44 comments on “Trump is nothing more than a Clinton stalking horse

  1. nyp says:

    I love it.

  2. Trump was merely yanking their chain…and it looks like it worked!

  3. Steve says:

    Trump is a Trojan Horse.
    Always has been.

    All he wants is whats best for Trump.

    Glenn Cook saw it right away.

  4. Glenn Cook has an excellent take on the debate. It was posted online at 9:48 p.m., but the print edition does not have this timely piece of analysis. Too lazy to do their damned jobs there?

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/columns-blogs/glenn-cook/gop-debate-marks-beginning-the-end-trump

    It was posted on the Denver Post website this morning.

    http://www.doverpost.com/article/20150807/NEWS/150809873

    I stumbled onto it by accident. It is also posted on at least two other Gatehouse Media websites.

  5. In addition to no Cook commentary in the print edition, this is Friday, a scheduled day for the paper’s liberal “political” columnist, also the day after the first GOP debates, but there is no column by the political columnist. Who do they think they are, the Sun?

  6. Steve says:

    The left opinion was posted on the slashpolitics section last night.

  7. Steve says:

    Noticed a number of job postings in Monster for open positions at the RJ, maybe they are spending the money on them instead of the print editions?

    ala LV Sun? hmm.

  8. Under the online columnist listing there is a link to Cook’s debate analysis but no link to Sebelius’ liberal screed … single-payer works.

  9. nyp says:

    Here is praise for Hillary Clinton from another RINO:
    “Very capable public servant, great Secretary of State and First Lady.” — Rick Perry

  10. nyp says:

    Yet another wolf in Republican sheep’s clothing:
    “When asked about the Democrat’s potential run for the White House, Huckabee said no Republican knows her better than he does, given their Arkansas connections. He described her as ‘smart’ and ‘tough,’ and cautioned that she should never be underestimated. ‘She’s a policy genius,’ he said.”

  11. nyp says:

    And, of course, the biggest RINO of them all, Jeb Bush:
    “‘Former Secretary Clinton has dedicated her life to serving and engaging people across the world in democracy,”

  12. Steve says:

    I think the RJ keeps the slashpolitics section separate.

  13. Glenn Cook…followed the lead of Charles Krauthammer & Frank Luntz from last evening. Not exactly original thinking. His appraisals of Dr. Ben Carson and Jeb Bush were way off the mark. It’s pretty comical if you read the comments to his piece…he’s doing exactly what he accused Trump of. I’m not in Trumps corner but I do love to see him twisting the establishment Republicans into pretzels and the journalists into hissy fits. Watch his poll numbers dip a little…then shoot back up. People are pissed off…and they’re sick and tired of the BS that passes for leadership in Washington and Carson City.

  14. Yes, but why are they buying this guy’s snake oil. He has not said anything of substance or consequence. He is all lip and snarl.

  15. Steve says:

    What settled it for me is (and Tom posted a link to the story) Trump took a phone call from Bill Clinton and sources say they discussed Trump entering the race as a Republican.

    Total bullshit move by the Clintons to get Trump to do a repeat of the Perot snafu. Even down to the “tax reform” he calls for.

    Don’t buy what Trump is selling, unless you are looking at some of his real estate or a vacation package!

  16. Lip and snarl….and backbone. That’s what folks are reacting to. I agree…he’s a bull in a china shop, and on substance he’s sorely lacking. But when is the last time you saw a Republican leader in Washington actually stand up to our Community Organizer in Chief and DO something substantive about it? Over anything??? For the most part they’re all hat and no cattle. And when is the last time a Republican put journalist in their place after asking some ridiculous trumped up PC question (no pun intended)? People are fed up with business as usual…and that nerve is still raw and still in play.

  17. Steve says:

    Disagree about the question and answer, dog and pony show Fox put on.

    First it was not a debate.
    Second I do think Fox figured out what Trump is up to and they don’t like it any more than I do.

  18. Barbara says:

    Spot on HFB. I don’t like Trump either but it is comical to see everyone getting their panties in an uproar. I’ve read much better from Cook also. No mention of Cruz at all. I doubt that Hillary is going to be the Dems nominee, so everyone should take a breather on Trump being a Trojan Horse for Clinton. He may or may not be. Right now it doesn’t really matter. The reaction to him is telling in that the Republican establishment and the media do not get it — folks are tired of the lies coming from Washington.

    Very disappointed in Fox News. I was interested in hearing candidates give their solutions to the many problems facing our nation. I was not interested in listening to moderators playing games, trying to pit one candidate against another, or crafting stupid questions like “Does God speak to you” or “war on women” blah, blah, blah!

  19. Steve says:

    You better hope Hillary is the Democrat nominee. SHE has tons of baggage ready to be opened by opponents.

    If the nominee turns out to be Bernie Sanders the whole game changes, that guy would be a formidable candidate, proud of and willing to back up, everything he has ever said.

  20. Barbara says:

    Including his proposal to raise tax rates to 90 percent… I think her baggage is catching up to her.

  21. Steve says:

    90 percent for the supposed “one percent”

    Sanders knows what the populace wants to hear and he knows how to sell it.

    Like I said, formidable. Sanders already one upped Trump when he made clear if he doesn’t take the Democrat primary, he won’t run on another ticket. And Sanders is giving the “anointed one” real troubles. Also, this would not be the first time Hillary got pushed aside by her own party faithful.

  22. WSJ’s Daniel Henninger compared Trump to Harold Hill, the huckster salesman in “Music Man.” There’s trouble in River City and he’s just the man with enough brass to sell you the solution.

    “Like Professor Harold Hill, Donald Trump must know it’s all a fabulous scam. How else to explain that on June 4—just before his presidential announcement—the Donald came to Mason City, Iowa, Meredith Willson’s hometown and the model for River City. And where did Donald Trump address Mason City’s locals? In Music Man Square.”

    Wink, wink.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-in-river-city-1438210876

  23. Nyp says:

    Hey Barb – do you still think we are going into recession this year?

  24. Steve says:

    Recession is when your neighbor loses a job.
    Depression is when you lose yours.

    If not for my inheritance money, I would say we are in a depression.

  25. Barbara says:

    NYP – I have been out of the country and haven’t been looking at any of the latest data. I would venture to say that we are closer to a recession than the “robust growth” you have referenced.

    I am not a Trump supporter. I’m voting for Cruz in the primary. I just don’t understand why Trump is upsetting to anyone. Of course he has no loyalty to the Republican party. Why should he? What has the Republican establishment ever done for him? Why give up your leverage and tell the party establishment that you will support them no matter how they treat him? He is a great negotiator and knows how to keep someone’s feet to the fire.

    Just got Plunder and Deceit by Mark Levin. Can’t wait to read it.

  26. Steve says:

    Just now, on ET.
    Susan Sarandon supports Trump. Saying she hopes “Republicans tear their hair out”

    punny?

  27. Vernon Clayson says:

    I like that Trump stirs things up but for substance, intellect, and legal thinking I say Ted Cruz. What I don’t understand is why the media is so big on qualifications for conservatives when they’ve abided and assisted almost two terms of a Chicago street hustler with no verifiable background information on experience.

  28. Patrick says:

    It’s funny watching republicans twist in the wind and constantly attack the best candidate they have at every turn.

    Hillary Clinton is nothing BUT a conservative republican and they ought to do all they can to ensure that she is president because then all their policies will pass; lower taxes, bigger military, the strongest possible ties to Israel, and a foreign policy founded on the old slogan “what’s good for GM is good for America.”

    Thankfully, they rather worry about how Donald is messing things up for the rest of the dwarves.

    It’s funny.

  29. Steve says:

    Funny, Patrick.
    Apparently you missed my (numerous) statements saying I hope Hillary is the Democrat nominee.
    You guys deserve her.

  30. Patrick says:

    Steve, you misspelled “Democratic”

    Fixed.

  31. Fran says:

    Since when is it wrong for people not to rub elbows with someone who has different party lines? No wonder no one gets anything done in DC. I see nothing wrong with him donating to another’s charity, no matter what party they are with. That is what charity is all about… giving to help others. Maybe Donald shouldn’t be president (he couldn’t do any worse than the current) but I am sure DC could probably use his help. He at least gets things done.

  32. Rincon says:

    Toeing the Republican Party line isn’t always the goal. Connecting with the voters is the goal. Besides, the Republican Party has lost much of its sway. According to Time, “The billionaires (Koch brothers) help fund a political network that is larger and perhaps more consequential than the Republican National Committee.”

  33. The biggest losers in the “debate” were the three Fox News commentators. They were abysmal. You know when they start with a sophomoric raise your hand question aimed at only one candidate…they’re off to a rocky start. The first debate with the seven lower tiered candidates…was far better than the big event. They asked very tough questions…but they didn’t make themselves the center of the debate. I thought all 17 candidates did pretty well in spite of the lack of professionalism in the second forum by Brett Baier, Chris Wallace…and especially Megyn Kelly. They were horrific…Hugh Hewitt would have run rings around these three. And in closing…I would take any one of these 17 over the geriatric bench of the Democrats or our Community Organizer in Chief.

  34. Nyp says:

    This is fascinating to me

  35. Steve says:

    dem·o·crat·ic
    ˌdeməˈkradik/
    adjective
    1.
    of, relating to, or supporting democracy or its principles.
    “democratic reforms”
    synonyms: elected, representative, popular, parliamentary; More
    2.
    of or relating to the Democratic Party.

    Today’s Democrats do not deserve the word.

    There, now it’s settled.

  36. Patrick says:

    “Republicans for Orwell Unite!”

    Where’s Winston when you need him?

  37. Steve says:

    Red State Gathering is figuring out what Trump and Clinton are up to.

  38. The Red State Gathering and Eric Erickson have just assured that the Trumpster will have more headlines and media ink for the next four days…dumb move.

  39. Steve says:

    Nope, Trump would have made sure he got headlines one way or the other.

  40. Nyp says:

    Wonder how Eric Erickson would have reacted had Trump said that about Rachael Maddow.

  41. Steve says:

    Wonder how FOX would react if Rachel Maddow was one of their “moderators”!

  42. Barbara says:

    I don’t agree with Erickson’s disinviting Trump given the explanation that was given. If his wife and child are so easily offended, maybe they don’t belong at this convention. HFB is correct that this will only prolong Trump’s days as a candidate. Better to let him talk and expose all his rough edges and unsuitability for the office.

  43. nyp says:

    Isn’t Erik Erickson the guy who said the feminists were women who were “too ugly to get a date”?

  44. […] fact, Trump is nothing more than a stalking horse for Hillary Clinton. He jumped into the race shortly after a phone call from Bill Clinton in which […]

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