What it looks like depends on where you are standing on the political spectrum

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions.”

Albert Einstein

The center keeps shifting to the left.

Take as illustrative the lede story in today’s Las Vegas newspaper about politics in Carson City. It talks about ultraconservatives and extreme stances and moderate-not-liberal Republicans who want to raise taxes by $1.3 billion. This is not a criticism of the story. It is simply using the argot of the moment.

The explanation for why so many can observe the same event, see such vastly different things and remain completely unpersuaded is outlined in my general theory of political relativity, first postulated 2010.

Ira Hansen, labeled an ultraconservative. (R-J photo)

No observer is stationary. All are themselves in motion at different velocities, in different directions along the political spectrum from red to blue.

The theory goes something like this (e=mc²): The energy of one’s convictions equals the mass of one’s deductions times the speed of insight squared.

With the leftward shift of the center, people have no qualms about saying that requiring gender specific bathrooms and locker rooms and showers in elementary school is extreme.

“I didn’t realize when I was growing up that I was a horrible segregationist because boys went to the boys bathroom and girls went to the girls bathroom. We want to maintain that,” Republican Ira Hansen is quoted as saying. “It has nothing to do with the other issues opponents were bringing up.”

Things have changed.

It doesn’t require a nuclear physicist to figure it out. Just ask my son who works on the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider at Brookhaven National Lab — it’s sort of like playing billiards with really tiny balls, only the balls don’t bounce.

Here is an example from the April 14 Investor’s Business Daily of how people at different points on the political spectrum view things.

Asked if was wrong of Hillary Clinton to use a personal email account while Secretary of State, 69 percent of Democrats said no, while 68 percent of Republicans said yes. Asked whether they were satisfied with her explanation, 74 percent of Democrats said yes, while 73 percent of Republicans said no.

Example of the split in attitudes between Democrats and Republicans (Investor's Business Daily)

Example of the split in attitudes between Democrats and Republicans (Investor’s Business Daily)

 

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33 comments on “What it looks like depends on where you are standing on the political spectrum

  1. agent provocateur says:

    Reblogged this on Nevada State Personnel Watch.

  2. Winston Smith says:

    Gee, Tom, how did we forget to memorialize yesterday, April 19th? As every schoolchild should know, yesterday was the 240th anniversary of the “shot heard ’round the world”.

    http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3308/The-Man-Who-Fired-The-Shot-Heard-Round-The-World.aspx

    Of course, it was the 22nd anniversary of the day Janet Reno and her fedbot thugs murdered 80-some Branch Davidians.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120472/?ref_=nv_sr_3

    And, as the MSM reminded us yesterday, it was also the 20th anniversary of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City being bombed by the federal government, in order to demonize the growing militia movement.

    Yep, quite a day in history…

  3. Today is Hitler’s birthday.

  4. Winston Smith says:

    BTW, about this post, if a famous Republican had done the same thing as Hillary with his/her e-mails, I wonder how the poll would look. Members of both parties are notoriously partisan-driven, not principle-driven…..

    BTW2, here’s a link to WACO: Rules of Engagement…

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c5_1194818766

  5. nyp says:

    Another statement that Thomas Mitchell appears to agree with:
    “yesterday was the 20th anniversary of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City being bombed by the federal government, in order to demonize the growing militia movement.”

  6. Steve says:

    Another thing Nyp appears to support:
    The 22nd anniversary of the day the Federal Government murdered 80-some Branch Davidians in the name of freedom of religion…oh…yeah.

  7. nyp says:

    Everthing in the post above is a lie.

  8. Steve says:

    Thou dost protest to loudly, Nyp.

  9. nyp says:

    Perhaps Mr. Mitchell can confirm for us whether he agrees that the Oklahoma City terrorist bombing was indeed a federal government inside job.

  10. Steve says:

    Perhaps you can confirm your undying support for the administration that committed that act of tyranny on its own citizens.

  11. nyp says:

    So, you too believe that the Oklahoma City terrorist bombing was perpetrated by the federal government.
    How insane.

  12. Steve says:

    Oh, forgive me…that was NOT the FBI at WACO, TX?

  13. Steve says:

    Oh meant ATF not FBI. FBI is and was very happy they were not wanted on site. ATF refused the offer of help.
    ATF was operating under the full authority of the administration.

  14. nyp knows the answer to his questions…he just likes to play games.

  15. And just for the record…the bombing of the Oklahoma Federal Building (where 168 innocent men, women & children lost their lives) was NOT an inside job. It was the vile work of misguided domestic terrorists Timothy McVeigh (who was executed for his crime) and Terry Nichols (serving life without parole). Waco, was a major fustercluck led by Janet Reno, that was bungled in every imaginable way by the Feds (four ATF agents were killed) and ultimately led to the deaths of 76 women, children & men (who blindly followed sadistic cult leader David Koresh). Both were extremely sad days for America.

  16. Steve says:

    And Janet Reno reported to the President. That administration was blatant in covering up its own screw ups. Lets not forget Randy Weaver. (THAT was all FBI under the aforementioned administration.)
    Just as the current administration can’t seem to come to terms with its BLM.

  17. nyp says:

    They were indeed extremely sad days. But Steve believes that the Waco tragedy was something more than that – an “act of tyranny” that was “committed” by the federal government.

    Other commentators on this blog make a far more disgusting allegation: that the Oklahoma terrorist bombing was an inside job by the federal government. It appears that Thomas Mitchell subscribes to this insane belief as well.

  18. Steve says:

    Bill Clinton was the president…it was his justice department that was allowed to proceed with its ATF action for TWENTY days Nyp.

    THAT makes it a federal action.

  19. Winston Smith says:

    Thanks, DARPA, you gave me the response I expected.

    Strassmeir, Spiegelman, Fortier, Partin, Mankin, McCauley, Alley, Brescia, Howe, Wilburn, Mahon

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/07/search-john-doe-no-2-story-feds-never-told-about-oklahoma-city-bombing?page=1

    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/OKC_key.htm

    BTW, I personally knew one of the NIST investigators sent to analyze the Murrah Building and he told me that he and some others on the team believed it was virtually impossible for a fertilizer bomb parked on the street to take out the internal supporting columns in the pattern experienced. Of course, the official NIST report says otherwise.

    BTW2, your description of my allegation as “disgusting” does nothing to negate the possibility of its truth. As with Ruby Ridge, Waco and 9/11, what is truly disgusting is our federal government’s blatant ill-behavior.

    War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength

  20. nyp says:

    This is the sort of twisted, evil stuff, married to rank racism, that Thomas Mitchell appears to tacitly endorse.

  21. Winston Smith says:

    LOL. Nice refutation, DARPA, but I don’t get the racism part. You really need to grow beyond utilizing logical fallacies if you’re going to earn your pay.

    Here’s a list of what to avoid:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

    BTW, do you really get up at 3:42 AM just to see what we’re writing?

  22. Winston Smith says:

    Oh, here’s Pat Buchanan on the TPP:

    http://freedomsback.com/pat-buchanan/obamas-republican-collaborators/

    He nails it, as per usual…

    BTW, DARPA, how do you feel about “free trade” agreements that cause higher unemployment here in America?

  23. Steve says:

    Nyp loves to exaggerate and “interpret” others words to death. This is done with an intentional lack of context for support.

    But it is true Nyp fully supports the immoral, tyrannical (and very likely illegal) actions taken by the Clinton administration at Waco, TX and Ruby Ridge, ID.

    Nyp supports, defends and hopes for more tyrants to “run” this country. Maybe the next bunch of his peeps will “take out” Cliven Bundy.

  24. nyp says:

    Exaggeration? Interpretation?
    A commentator on this site wrote that the “Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City [was] bombed by the federal government, in order to demonize the growing militia movement.”

    Those are his words.

    That is evil and deranged.

    Thomas Mitchell, of course, responded to that very statement within minutes. Did he call it insane? Did he denounce it? Nope. He used the occasion to mark that the day also happened to be the birthday of Adolf Hitler.

  25. Steve says:

    The people in charge of both “law enforcement Agency’s” at the time were the Clintons.

    YOU and yours are happy to support them again.

  26. Winston Smith says:

    And DARPA continues to name call with his faux indignation, instead of actually looking at the provided information to see if there is any validity. Certainly Oklahoma state Rep. Charles Key has some pertinent points, but some people are so afraid that they might stumble upon some paradigm-altering truth that it’s just safest to keep one’s head in the sand and pretend that other possibilities simply don’t exist.

    BTW, Ruby Ridge happened during Bush I. At least the Weavers were able to win their lawsuit and be somewhat recompensed for the federal tyranny they experienced.

  27. Steve says:

    Thanks, Winston. That was a close event…November was not far off.
    I wish Ross Perot hadn’t gone all nuts on the campaign…he had the makings of some change in his run up.

  28. Winston Smith says:

    Most likely Perot was threatened when his campaign really started taking off, hence his weirdness when he seemed confused about whether he was actually running or not. According to Wikipedia (god of knowledge) it had something to do with pictures of his daughter.

    It’s too bad, since he was right on in many of his stances. His “large sucking sound” still resonates today…

  29. Winston Smith says:

    Funny video I’m sure DARPA will enjoy. Oh, that’s right, I forgot he doesn’t do videos…

  30. Steve says:

    “What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?”

    Clinton…the spouse… Jan. 23, 2013

  31. nyp says:

    Here is what she actually said:

    Johnson: But, Madame Secretary, do you disagree with me that a simple phone call to those evacuees to determine what happened wouldn’t have ascertained immediately that there was no protest? That was a piece of information that could have been easily, easily obtained?

    Clinton: But, Senator, again—

    Johnson: Within hours, if not days?

    Clinton: Senator, you know, when you’re in these positions, the last thing you want to do is interfere with any other process going on, number one—

    Johnson: I realize that’s a good excuse.

    Clinton: Well, no, it’s the fact. Number two, I would recommend highly you read both what the ARB said about it and the classified ARB because, even today, there are questions being raised. Now, we have no doubt they were terrorists, they were militants, they attacked us, they killed our people. But what was going on and why they were doing what they were doing is still unknown —

    Johnson: No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that — an assault sprang out of that — and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.

    Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.

    Johnson: OK. Thank you, Madame Secretary.

  32. Steve says:

    “What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?”

  33. Winston Smith says:

    Ms. American Lie

    [Intro]
    Long, long time ago
    I can still remember how her darkness was so deeply vile
    And I knew if I had my chance
    I could rescue people from her trance
    And maybe they’d be happy for a while

    Her corruption made me shiver
    Her coldness made me quiver
    Bad news on the doorstep
    I couldn’t take one more step

    I can’t remember if I cried
    When I read about his widowed bride
    But something touched me deep inside
    The day Vince Foster died

    [Chorus]
    So lie, lie, Ms. American Lie
    Drives me crazy to hear her hazy and tiresome lies
    Now good ole boys are used to Beltway lies
    But to me they make America die
    Closer to seeing America die

    [Verse 1]
    Did you read the book of love
    And do you have faith in God above
    Or do ends justify means?
    Seems you follow old Niccolo
    Can power exalt your crooked soul?
    And can you ever quench your need to control?

    Well, I know that you’re in love with sin
    ‘Cause I see your crimes again and again
    But you come out smellin’ fine
    Ma’am, you keep evading discipline

    I was a newly anointed political buck
    With a cynical ‘tude and wry outlook
    But I knew that truth was outa luck
    The day Vince Foster died

    [Chorus]
    So lie, lie, Ms. American Lie
    Drives me crazy to hear her hazy and tiresome lies
    Now good ole boys are used to Beltway lies
    But to me they make America die
    Closer to seeing America die

    [Verse 2]
    Over ten years we’ve been watchin’ her and him
    And they’ve grown fat on dealin’ OPM
    But that’s not how it used to be
    When the ex-Pres sang for some king and queen
    With data e-mailed from some machine
    And voices ignored came from you and me

    Oh, and while the king was payin’ down
    The ex-Pres traveled to the next town
    His pressroom was adjourned
    No adverse news returned

    And while she read a book on Marx
    Then practiced politics on a lark
    He played with interns in the dark
    The day Vince Foster died

    [Chorus]
    So lie, lie, Ms. American Lie
    Drives me crazy to hear her hazy and tiresome lies
    Now good ole boys are used to Beltway lies
    But to me they make America die
    Closer to seeing America die

    [Verse 3]
    Helter skelter in a summer swelter
    Bodies were dropping with no shelter
    Eighty bodies high and growing fast
    Tully & Foster, friends from their past
    Ferguson & Brown, wouldn’t be the last
    With the ex-Pres in the headlines, who might pass?

    Now the first-term air was sweet perfume
    While the lapdog press played a happy tune
    We all got up to dance
    Oh, but we never got the chance

    With more bodies being buried in a field
    Some ‘Publicans refused to yield
    Do you recall what was revealed
    The day Vince Foster died?

    [Chorus]
    So lie, lie, Ms. American Lie
    Drives me crazy to hear her hazy and tiresome lies
    Now good ole boys are used to Beltway lies
    But to me they make America die
    Closer to seeing America die

    [Verse 4]
    Oh, and there we were all in one place
    A generation lost its face
    With no time left to start again
    So come on, Slick be nimble, Slick be quick
    Slick had an intern on his stick
    ‘Cause devil in a blue dress he can’t resist

    Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
    My hands were clenched in fists of rage
    No angel born in Hell
    Could break that liar’s spell

    And as their lies climbed high into the night
    To light their tyrannical rite
    I saw them laughing with delight
    The day Vince Foster died

    [Chorus]
    So lie, lie, Ms. American Lie
    Drives me crazy to hear her hazy and tiresome lies
    Now good ole boys are used to Beltway lies
    But to me they make America die
    Closer to seeing America die

    [Outro]
    We all saw Lewinsky sing the blues
    She didn’t have any happy news
    So she just smiled and turned away
    I went down to see the shore
    Where I’d lived innocent years before
    But the men said those old times didn’t stay

    And in the streets, the children screamed
    Their parents hid and the grandparents dreamed
    But no complaint was spoken
    The church houses all were broken

    And the presidents I admire most
    Are a-spinning in their graves as ghosts
    They been disgusted at times the most
    The day Vince Foster died

    [Chorus]
    So lie, lie, Ms. American Lie
    Drives me crazy to hear her hazy and tiresome lies
    Now good ole boys are used to Beltway lies
    But to me they make America die
    Closer to seeing America die

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