Obama to China: We’ll sacrifice and pay higher power bills and you will do, well, nothing whatsoever

Obama at a press conference (Getty Images)

I wouldn’t trust Obama to negotiate with trick-or-treaters on Halloween night. The first kid would get all the candy.

That’s what he did with his grand deal with China to cut carbon dioxide output. The U.S. agrees to cut carbon by up to 28 percent of our 2005 level by 2025, while China agreed to stop increasing its carbon emissions by 2030.

But Investor’s Business Daily reports that Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory forecasts that China’s emissions will peak in 2030. So, China has agreed to do nothing whatsoever.

Never mind there has been no global warming in 18 years despite what all the computer models predicted would be the result of rising carbon output.

The Wall Street Journal noted that under this nonbinding agreement, China promises “to intend to achieve the peaking of CO2 emissions around 2030,” which basically describes the status quo.

Of course, Nevada senior Sen. Harry Reid, D-Green cronies, thought it was a good deal:

“The historic announcement by President Obama and President Xi Jingping of China is exactly what is needed to ensure that America’s efforts to clean up our energy supply are replicated around the world.  As I’ve said in the past, we cannot wait to address climate change and strengthen our nation’s resilience to extreme weather and climate impacts. I hope this agreement will spur other countries to join with us in confronting climate change.”

As long as there is more loot for his renewable energy company contributors, all else is naught.

This deal merely shows that Obama is a pushover who will agree to anything in order to be able to say he negotiated a deal. Hello, world, here comes a sucker.

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39 comments on “Obama to China: We’ll sacrifice and pay higher power bills and you will do, well, nothing whatsoever

  1. Steve says:

    Hmm…handing China the baton of economic leadership.

    This is what the USA is doing.

  2. nyp says:

    Here is some information you left out:

    “The Chinese announcement promises to peak emissions “around” 2030 and to try to beat that deadline. It also articulates a goal of boosting non-fossil energy to twenty percent of Chinese fuel. People will pore over these numbers (and I’ll say something about them below). But perhaps the most striking thing about them is simply that they’re genuinely new. In 2009, when China announced a goal of cutting emissions intensity by 40-45 percent below 2005 levels by 2020, many analysts (myself included) noted that they contained no ambition to move beyond “business as usual” estimates for future Chinese emissions. Not this time around: for China to peak its emissions by 2030, it would need to depart significantly from the path that most analysts currently expect. That alone is a big deal..”
    http://tinyurl.com/kp9hk4r

  3. I forgot to include this from the Daily Signal:

    “China’s commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions is akin to a pledge from a broke, addicted gambler to his bookie to pay later.”

    http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/12/real-story-china-climate-change-deal-make-changes-now-wait-2030/

  4. nyp says:

    I have no idea what you mean by that.
    I guess you are just saying that China will never meet its commitment –is that it?

  5. I’d wager on it — to continue to analogy.

  6. nyp says:

    Ok, so, as I said, a smooth pivot from “China will never agree” to “China will never honor its agreement.”

  7. nyp says:

    Here is a good example of what movement conservatives were saying, oh, just a few months ago:

    ““Mr. Obama’s logic seems to be that the U.S. should first set a moral example by imposing costs that reduce our prosperity,” sneered the Journal’s editors, “This will then inspire China (8.7 billion tons), which produces and consumes nearly as much coal as the rest of the world combined, to do the same to its 300 million people who still live on pennies a day. Good luck persuading Xi Jinping.”
    Wall Street Journal, June 3, 2014.

  8. nyp says:

    And then here is Charles Krauthammer, last week on Fox:
    “I think the one item he could negotiate, and I’m serious about this, climate change. That’s the one where if we and China could agree it would make a difference. … If he gets an agreement with China, which he won’t, but that’s the one area it would be historic.”

    Would you like to wager whether Krauthammer and the Journal are now ready to hail President Obama’s historic achievement?

  9. Steve says:

    An achievement not to be proven until 15 years pass?

    I will believe it when I see it.

  10. nyp says:

    You could be correct that for 14 years, 11 months and 29 days China will make absolutely no effort to control its greenhouse gas emissions by replacing its coal plants with nuclear and solar, and and the rest of the world will fail to notice the lack of progress.Naive liberal that I am, I instead believe that there are numerous ways of tracking China’s progress over the next fifteen years, and of determining whether it is meeting its goals.

  11. Steve says:

    So you found ways in that agreement to ensure the “progress” actually happens.

    huh.

  12. Rincon says:

    China produces 6.2 tons of CO2 per year per capita vs. our 17.6. Much of their 6.2 tons is produced by creating the products that we buy from them. China and we will have a similar CO2 production per capita in 2030 if the terms of the treaty are met. Since we had over a hundred years of free CO2 industrial production before this, we will still have gotten to produce a lot more CO2 per capita than them. If China had settled for less, they would have been the suckers. Either way though, it’s a dumb treaty since it ignores the rest of the world.

    China appears to be serious as evidenced by their status today as the number one producer of solar and wind energy in the world. They are also the number one producer of wind and solar generating systems. They also have the largest high speed rail network in the world. Are they leaving us behind in our 20th century technology or are they leaping into a money pit? Either way, they certainly think differently than we do.

  13. zip says:

    This is a shell game like the Fed money printing pressing that have no backing.
    I wonder who this “we” is that Obala refers to … the ‘powers that be’ most likely (the ones he serves) because it sure isn’t ‘We the people’. He’s anti-US.

  14. Winston Smith says:

    “He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;”

  15. Nyp says:

    Zip — you are a nutter.

  16. Athos says:

    Nah, petey. It’s just another Gruber case of treating the American public as “too stupid to know what’s good for them”, by our power mad elites.

    You and Rinny want us to live like it’s the stone age? You show us the way, let us observe your living conditions that are so “Green Friendly” and maybe you’ll persuade us to join you……sometime after 2030, I’m sure!

  17. nyp says:

    Who are these “power mad elites” of which you speak? Can you name some of them?

  18. Rincon says:

    Funny that you think nyp and I want us to live in the Stone Age. That was a time of pure capitalism and no government regulation. Sounds like it fits your ideals pretty well.

  19. Athos says:

    petey, are you serious about naming our power mad elites? President X comes to mind (as if you didn’t know!) Harry Greid, Chucky Schumer, Pelousy, ah, how about the entire socialist network in DC? Power corrupts, don’t you know?

    Rinny, how’s that global warming working out for you in Illinois, today?

  20. Nyp says:

    Why is Harry Reid an “elite” but not Mitch McConnell?

  21. Rincon says:

    You can’t be serious. Put a smiley face behind it next time so I can laugh too.

  22. Steve says:

    I believe nyp is again reading selectively….Senator McConnell would fall under that bit nyp edited out while carefully selecting what to read in Athos post….. “the entire socialist network in DC” is as a non partisan comment as is possible.
    Though Athos does name the worst of the worst individually.

  23. Nyp says:

    So McConnell is a non-socialist elite?

  24. Steve says:

    Spinmeister nyp, McConnell is a part of “the entire socialist network in DC”

    smh

  25. nyp says:

    Ah – I did not realize that Mitch McConnell is a socialist.

    That clears things up.

  26. Athos says:

    Steve, thanks for pointing out the obvious to petey, but here’s a thought for you…. what sort of man has such a delusional sense of self importance, that he thinks he can make the proper decision for 310 million people; or worse yet, is so filled with ego that he thinks he can control nature, herself?

    I’m sure there’s a clinical term for this sort of psychosis, but it’s late and I can’t think of it, now.

  27. Athos says:

    Although, I have read that Gruber has collected $5.9 million in fees “consulting” various states about their role with PinocchioCare.

    Is it really that hard to distinguish between con artists, and self-appointed “useful idiots”?

  28. Steve says:

    Funny (not haha) Nyp thinks we don’t live in a socialist nation.

  29. nyp says:

    No, we do not live in a socialist nation. It is absurd to even suggest that we do.

  30. Athos says:

    You know, petey, if you keep on repeating all those lies, you’re gonna start believing in your own BS! (and that will be a bad day for you)

  31. nyp says:

    So you think we are a socialist country. How loony.
    Tell me — when did we become socialist? When Social Security was enacted? Medicare? The federal home loan program? The Federal Reserve?

  32. Athos says:

    I don’t know, Tom. I think I’d have to go with Woody Wilson’s Fed Reserve (although it was more of the “elitist rule” insertion – kind of like the modern day Dr. Gruber!)

    AND what do you know?? Woody was a college professor (Princeton?) and Pinocchio was a pretend teacher at Univ. of Chicago!

  33. nyp says:

    But those programs were repealed in 1943. Did we stop being socialst in 1943? Or was there some blissful period of post-WPA non-socialism, followed by a resumption of the long socialist darkness?

  34. nyp says:

    So Athos thinks that the United States has been a socialist country for his entire lifetime. For almost a hundred years.

    And look where it has gotten us!

  35. Athos says:

    “And look where it has gotten us!”

    Pinocchio! (and useful idiots like you, petey!)

  36. […] p.s. Speaking of clean energy, all the papers made a big deal of China cutting a deal with Obama to cut carbon emissions, but you won’t read much about China balking at actually allowing monitoring to see if they are living up to the deal. Told you so. […]

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