Billions for detention and handling of illegals, but not one dime for turning them back at the border and not letting them cross

Illegal immigrant children at the border.

Central American parents are sending their unaccompanied children north to the U.S. because they believe their children will be given homes, food, clothes, an education and medical care and will not be sent back.

So, what is included in Obama’s proposed $3.7 billion spending package to “secure” the border?

The biggest item is $1.8 billion for Health and Human Services  “to provide the appropriate care for unaccompanied children, consistent with Federal law, while maintaining services for refugees.  With these funds, HHS will have the resources to be able to care for the children currently projected to come into the custody of the Department of Homeland Security while putting in place more stable, cost-effective arrangements for these children going forward.” Going forward means for the long haul.

As for actually securing the border and turning back illegals before entering the country, there is not a mention of doing so.

Obama proposes $433 million for the Department of Homeland Security’s Customs and Border Protection, but much of that is for  “contract services and facility costs to care for children while in CBP custody, and medical and transportation.”

It all about apprehending and detaining and not turning back.

Obama proposes $1.1 billion for Immigration and Customs Enforcement:

  • $116 million would pay for transportation costs associated with the significant rise in apprehensions of unaccompanied children;
  • $109 million would provide for immigration and customs enforcement efforts, including expanding the Border Enforcement Security Task Force program, doubling the size of vetted units in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, and expanding investigatory activities by ICE Homeland Security Investigations; and
  • $879 million would pay for detention and removal of apprehended undocumented adults traveling with children, expansion of alternatives to detention programs for these individuals, and additional prosecution capacity for adults with children who cross the border unlawfully.

Most the rest of the money goes for paying lawyers and judges and clerical staff to push paper around for years and years, such as the “$45.4 million would be to hire approximately 40 additional immigration judge teams.”

Then there is that $5 million for a propaganda campaign in Central America that “will emphasize the dangers of the journey, deliver the message that unaccompanied children are not given a permit to stay in the U.S.” Nope. No permit just perpetual care and a lot of paperwork.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry points out that there is no Border Patrol at the border to turn back foreigners.

“The president was not even aware that his border patrol was back 40 or 45 miles from the border at these checkpoints,” he said on Fox News. “They need to be right on the ripper, they need to be there as a show of force.”

Perry went on to say:

“Very little of it [the bill] is for border security. And I think until he gets realistic about the problem and how you deal with the problem, and it is a border security issue, and we’ve got a track record now of five plus years of him disregarding what is going on on the border, so here’s his opportunity to truly lead.”

Lead? He wouldn’t even go to the border — or send his Border Patrol there.

Today the White House confirmed that many of the illegals will be allowed to stay in this country permanently if they simply say they are afraid to return home because of the dangers there.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said:

“These children will — and other immigrants who are attempting to enter the country without documentation — will go through the immigration process and that means their claims of asylum will be considered by an immigration judge and by asylum officials.

“What that means is it means that if a immigration judge determines that they face a credible threat of death upon their return to their home country, then, again, I’m not an immigration judge, but it is likely that the immigration judge will find that that person should be granted humanitarian relief.”

Don’t we all face a credible threat of death eventually?


Glenn McCoy cartoon

26 comments on “Billions for detention and handling of illegals, but not one dime for turning them back at the border and not letting them cross

  1. bc says:

    Went to the border a couple of times a few years back when we lived in Texas. All I could see on the Texas border were Border Patrol and local sheriffs deputies patrolling the place, helicopters flying back and forth, the border looked pretty well patrolled from what I could see. Only place I did not see patrolling on the border was in the Big Bend National Park. But the mountains on the other side of the river looked pretty tough to get across and with the tourists up and down the US side they would not get far without being spotted.

    If they are spending even more money on the border since I was there 4 years ago, probably a lot of waste going on.

  2. nyp says:

    Why do you support the free flow of capital and goods, but not the free flow of labor?

  3. If it weren’t for all the welfare handouts, I’d support the free flow of labor.

  4. Athos says:

    Because we’re a sovereign nation, petey.

  5. nyp says:

    1. If we are a “sovereign nation,” why permit foreigners to sell their goods here and take over our companies without a tariff?
    2. It is pretty well-established in the literature that immigrants, including illegal aliens, represent a positive GDP contribution, notwithstanding the fact that we spend money educating their kids and paying for some indigent and emergency care.

  6. Anonymous says:

    1. Ask Harry Greid ( whose kid works for a Chinese Company).

    2. The literature you cite is obviously in the Fiction section.

  7. nyp says:

    “The Economic Benefits of Immigration” –Diana Furchtgott-Roth, Senior Fellow, Manhattan Institute

  8. nyp says:

    “Immigration Benefits The U.S., So Let’s Legalize All Work” — Doug Bandow, Cato Institute

  9. Steve says:

    Immigration works…if handouts are not free flowing.

  10. “In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”

  11. nyp says:

    Ah, that is a “study” that has been widely discredited.

  12. Athos says:

    Forbes piece was an interesting read, but like I stated before (thanks for confirming) it’s fiction.

    We would not have to deport 11 million illegals if we just started with some simple steps.

    Step 1. End all welfare checks benefits (including the 1.3 million illegals signed up for PinocchioCare), no exceptions (sorry Malik Øbama). No emergency room care for illegals without the means to pay.

    Step 2. Any child that attends public schools without a proficiency in English will pay tuition until English is mastered. No taxpayer money to be used to pay this tuition.

    You start there, with some bureaucratic simple steps, and then we can tackle the immigration reform. That begins when we repeal Teddy Kennedy (the swimmer)’s “Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965” and replace it with allowing those desirable immigrants (Doug Bandow wrote about in his Forbes piece) access to our country. Kind of like the Sport’s Worlds draft. Let’s pick the best instead of the neediest.

  13. Steve says:

    France had the same problems with Polish workers..with one exception. Those workers could commute from Poland and back. The French people began to complain about companies paying low wages to poles working in France.
    So the French government passed laws to require all workers in France (no matter the nationality) were to be paid the same wage.
    This lead to French companies relocating to Poland and French workers being told they would have to commute or move and accept the same wages as the Poles were being paid if the French workers wished to keep their jobs.
    This law has not gone over very well and is one of the things that got Sarkozy voted out. Though now my friends in Échirolles tell me Hollande is losing support faster than Sarkozy did.

    The point is immigration works and labor costs adjust if the state stays out of the way as much as possible.

    This influx should not have been a surprise and at the moment it appears those teenagers are getting what they were told they would get. Food, showers and a warm safe place to stay in the USA. Mexicans can be instantly deported. Its no surprise their levels of border crossings have been stable in the face of this influx from Central America.

  14. Petey, Cato was just quibbling over the size of the deficit per amnesty recipient, and calling for a lot of assumptions to be made.

  15. nyp says:

    Hey Athos – can you cite the source for your assertion that 1.3 million illegal aliens have signed up for insurance coverage under the Affordable Care Act?

    And at what age would you kick poor kids who don’t speak English out of school? 5th grade? 2d grade? Kindergarten?

  16. Athos says:

    Pinocchio said it, petey:

    Whatever grade kids enter, if they don’t speak English, the parents pay the tuition.

  17. nyp says:

    There is absolutely nothing in the story to which you linked that supports your assertion that 1.3 million illegal aliens have signed up for insurance coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

    Nothing whatsoever.

    As you do so often, you simply made that up.

  18. nyp says:

    That is quite a pivot. First you claim that 1.3 million illegal aliens have somehow signed up for health care insurance. Then you claim that President Obama is the source for your absurd assertion. Then, when your lie is unmasked, you link to a wingnut site that complains about the fact that the computer networks still lack proper internal controls for verifying enrollment information, including citizenship. But the audit report in question doesn’t support your claims in any way. As the Washington Post notes, “Such inconsistencies are not proof that people are enrolled improperly or are getting subsidies that are too high or two low. Rather, they mean that the ­marketplaces cannot figure out which information is correct.” So far, about 425,000 of the computer discrepancies have been resolved, and CMMS is working through the rest.

    I guess it really bugs you that millions and millions of Americans are now getting high-quality, affordable health insurance, and don’t have to go bankrupt like you.

  19. Steve says:

    It bugs me that nevadahelthlink is the single direct responsible party in canceling so damned many of those policies.
    People are getting seriously hurt by this.

  20. Athos says:

    HHS is having the problem, petey (surprise!). Too bad they didn’t have more time for the PinocchioCare roll-out, huh?

    But as to “my problem”, you can straighten that out with a few strokes on your keyboard. From where do people get their inalienable rights if they don’t believe in a Creator (with a capital C)??

    Or more to the point, is Big G their Creator?

  21. nyp says:

    When does ObamaCare implode?

    I thought that was supposed to have happened by now.

  22. Winston Smith says:

    Whether illegals are “good” or “bad” financially for this nation doesn’t really matter. Our borders should be secure, either way.

    No security = no border = no nation.

    The endgame is a North American Union, by hook or by crook.

  23. Steve says:

    “When does ObamaCare implode?”

    Has it been FULLY implemented yet?

  24. Athos says:

    Gee, Steve, if Pinocchio had a son, he’d look (and talk) just like Dayron!

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