How many laws did the IRS ignore?

Failed to notify archivist of data loss.

Neither did they follow the law and print out the emails. Or perhaps they got “recycled” too.

As for the media ignoring this, the Las Vegas newspaper wrote a scathing editorial on this topic and mentioned some twitter feeds on the topic on the editorial page, it has not published a single news article on this issue.

 

 

23 comments on “How many laws did the IRS ignore?

  1. Steve says:

    In a non committal answer he replied that the IRS did not “follow” the law.

    I wonder if the IRS will now accept that as a deduction explanation?

  2. nyp says:

    You believe that every government employee is required to print out a hard copy of every email that he or she receives? Wow.

  3. Wow.

    “If you create or receive email messages during the course of your daily work, you are responsible for ensuring that you manage them properly. The Treasury Department’s current email policy requires emails and attachments that meet the definition of a federal record be added to the organization’s files by printing them (including the essential transmission data) and filing them with related paper records. If transmission and receipt data are not printed by the email system, annotate the paper copy. More information on IRS records management requirements is available at http://erc.web.irs.gov/Displayanswers/Question.asp?FolderID=4&CategoryID=5 or see the Records Management Handbook, IRM 1.15.1 http://publish.no.irs.gov/IRM/P01/PDF/31421A03.PDF).

    “An email determined to be a federal record may eventually be considered as having historical value by the National Archivist prior to disposal. Therefore, ensure that all your communications are professional in tone.

    Please note that maintaining a copy of an email or its attachments within the IRS email MS Outlook application does not meet the requirements of maintaining an official record. Therefore, print and file email and its attachments if they are either permanent records or if they relate to a specific case.”

    http://www.irs.gov/irm/part1/irm_01-010-003.html

  4. Steve says:

    Smoke…no mirrors.

  5. nyp says:

    You believe that every government employee is required to print out a hard copy of every email that he or she receives?
    Wow

  6. Steve says:

    IRS Rules say they are to make permanent records.

  7. nyp says:

    Thank goodness those guidelines are not followed.

  8. Steve says:

    Guidlines? What are they, on a zipline?

  9. Steve says:

    “Please note that maintaining a copy of an email or its attachments within the IRS email MS Outlook application does not meet the requirements of maintaining an official record. ”

    Note the word “REQUIREMENT” not “guideline”….

    Thank goodness they don’t follow their own REQUIREMENTS?

    Thank goodness? For WHO?

  10. Vernon Clayson says:

    Obama promised transparency and he came through, everything he and his enablers do is “in your face”, a kind of transparency. The Democrats and the media rose up in anguish and anger because a few minutes of Nixon’s tapes disappeared, who believes there are any tapes of Obama’s conversations in the White House, of there are a few that they will ever be released? Perhaps about the same time as his background records and credentials.

  11. Nyp says:

    Hey – do you think members of Congress print out hard copies of every email their office sends or receives?

  12. Steve says:

    Hey! can you show the regs that govern that?

  13. Steve says:

    THIS discussion is about the IRS obeying its own laws.

  14. Nyp says:

    The IRS has the power to write laws?

  15. Steve says:

    OK lets me rephrase that.

    THIS discussion is about the IRS and whether its leadership was obeying the laws governing the IRS and the regulations requiring them the keep records as described in the links provided by the blog owner above.

    This discussion is NOT about congress members.

  16. Nyp says:

    Does anyone, anywhere on the face of the Earth, print out hard copies of every email they send and receive?

  17. Steve says:

    THIS discussion is NOT about anyone other than the IRS.

    THE IRS is REQUIRED to print out its emails…until it gets into the 21’st century as it has been ordered to complete by next year.

  18. Steve says:

    Meanwhile there were people in charge of the IRS who were blatantly ignoring law and regulations they ARE REQUIRED to obey and follow.

    This fact alone justifies investigation.

  19. Winston Smith says:

    Save a tree, eat an IRS regulation!

  20. nyp says:

    Today’s fun fact: according to a new gallup survey, between ten and eleven million adult Americans have become newly insured this year.

    http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/its-getting-hard-to-ignore-insurance-numbers/

  21. Steve says:

    A better fun fact. 76% of American voters think the IRS destroyed the Hard Drives.

    This puts Nyp is the solid 12% category.

    The rest of us think smoke leads to fire.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/24/fox-news-poll-voters-think-irs-emails-were-deliberately-destroyed/

  22. Athos says:

    Destroy hard evidence of a Pinocchio cover-up.

    Holy Tricky Dicky, Batman!!

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